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    Time and time again I remember this meme

    Basically democracy is government after the people, by the people, for the people . . . but people are retarded . . .

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    Is it too early to start talking about the abysmal failure of the “Vote Blue No Matter Who” strategy?

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      Lets discuss the “we’re really Republicans, so you Republicans should really vote Harris who will now ignore all leftists who intended to vote for her until they feel like shit and stay home instead of electing her!” strategy Harris tried to use just like Hillary tried to use that also entirely fucked up her voter base because the Dems DON’T want to vote for a Republican in disguise, and SHOCK the Republicans DO NOT CARE if you are 100% identical to their candidate, or ever MORE of a Republican than their candidate they are playing sport politics, they would elect a child molester, convicted felon, calling for ethnic cleansing, and removing all human rights of Women, they DON"T FUCKING CARE! They have no idea what politics, policy, or governance even is, they just want to WIN! Go RED Team!!

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      It’s more like: wut! I gotta get off my couch and what in line. Fuck that. It can’t be that bad.

      Oh it’s going to be bad now but don’t worry about voting again. He said so. You can stay on your couch and never vote again…even if you really want to.

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        He said so.

        Do stop with the liberal hysterics. It hasn’t helped you much, has it?

        Pretending to be democratic isn’t something the US is going to stop doing any time soon, so yes, you will be voting again.

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    Biden must be laughing his ass off right now. Should have let the old guy run. Turns out no one really cared about the presidents age.

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      Or just let any white man run. I’m sad to say it but this country hates women and it hates people of color.

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      The old guy should have never run for a second term so we could have had a chance at an actual full dedemocratic campaign out of someone.

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    There is a saying…

    Make a mistake once and you can call it learning, make a mistake twice and you are eh… not so smart

    Americans need education.

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    What devil has this guy made a deal with? No matter how stupid, obnoxious or abrasive he is, people worship him. He constantly screws himself over and then before he has to face serious consequences he trips on a rock and somehow everything’s alright again for him. At this point he literally can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and get away of it. I think Trump is solid evidence that we’re living in a simulation and somebody is fucking with us, because life just doesn’t work the way it works for him. Somebody’s thumb is on the scale.

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      The day after he was convicted on his 30+ felonies, he had the biggest donation day of any politician in US history, probably Human history. Jeff Bezos prevented any news outlet he owned of endorsing Harris, Elon Musk Did a million dollar raffle for Trump voters. They DO NOT WANT to pay taxes, and they DO NOT want to pay people who make their money. That’s all this has ever been, and they know Trump would fuck his mothers corpse for a nickle and will absolutely shift the tax burden to the poor and middle class as hard as he can, and he has a majority in the legislature, and full stop OWNS the most extreme and corrupt Supreme Court we’ve ever seen, and he will stack it even higher this term. It is a GREAT time to be a corrupt politician in America, no one is going to taste a single consequence for this fuckery.

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        Yeah I know he got help from various billionaires, but Mr. and Mrs. Middle America ignored stuff that goes against their own character. Most people don’t associate with anybody who’s on trial for multiple felonies. They disapprove of guys who cheat on their wives. They would frown on a grown man saying “grab 'em by the pussy.” Trump is not a person decent churchgoing Americans normally idolize - let alone pastors and ministers. He has an uncanny charm with these people, which I chalk up to his con man ability. But even a con man loses his audience when he drops pretense and acts like an asshole. The Orange Sack of Shit seems unnaturally immune to that.

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      What devil has this guy made a deal with?

      He cut a Faustian Bargain with the soul of America. And like Faust, he gets to spend his days capering and clowning about his social superiors, making unholy mischief in a kingdom that is itself revealed to be terminally corrupt and wholely damned.

      Trump took the Objectivist philosophy that’s guided this country for a generation and embodied it. He is Reaganism in its manifest state. Just a guy entirely out for himself who has convinced 71M other people to do the same.

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        Putin didn’t GAF about Donald Trump until he became useful enough. By that time the Orange Sack of Shit had already been stiffing creditors and skirting the law for decades, somehow living a life of abject luxury anyway, when if nature had taken its usual course he would have been a bankrupt nobody hustling $10 bar bets.

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    People need to stop blaming voters, we all need to start understand why this happen more and more in the world and not judge the voters for their decision. I have some theories but its not the time or place, but stop say “people are dumb” or “People need educations”… 100 million people cant be all dumb or uneducated, go deeper!

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      They’ve been conditioned for 8 years that any negative thing they read or hear about their leader is “fake news”, and likely their own pride of not wanting to consider the possibility they could be mistaken has made them easy targets for the misinformation machine at Fox News to avoid telling them objective facts to instead pander to their emotions and tell them what opinion they should have. Mass manipulation by biased media.

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        You’re telling me… There’s multiple issues and reasons in play… At the same time???

        This is getting entirely too complicated for me.

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        I also think part of the problem is that with the internet, we may just have a lot of data readily available, so much so people are overwhelmed they just tune it all out. We can spend a lot of time wondering why people vote the way they do but if the losing party doesn’t take the time to be retrospective and humble as to why they lost then I can’t blame people for that too much.

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      It feels so fucking obvious to me and it has for the 20 years I’ve been voting, I fucking voted for dennis kucinich lol. There’s a reason Bernie was able to cut through the noise. He had a blunt and obvious, class based, economic ideology. That’s where he planted his flag.

      The ‘third way’ Democrat machinery seems to plant it’s flag on reactionary culture war issues. Even if that’s only the perception, not reality, they always take the bait.

      AND WHY THE FUCK DID IT TAKE SO GOD DAMNED LONG FOR TRUMP TO BE CHARGED FOR J6? If you want to call them Nazis you have to do Nuremberg when you have the fucking chance.

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      Im sorry, but if Gaza, egg prices, and Harris not havjng a Y chromosome is enough for a magat trifecta, the voters are the problem. Not just the ones who stay home or vote third party, all of them. Americans are whats wrong with America

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      trump may be the iceberg that sinks the ship but people must not forget that it was obama that steered it so expertly there.

      whatever he has done in his eight years to engender such deeply entrenched hatred within the populace – so much that even morons like mr. 47 can exploit it so readily – needs to be studied so that it can be avoided in the future.

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        Obama didn’t start Fox news bro. Obama didn’t defund education and get rid of civics classes. Obama didn’t cut taxes on the billionaire class and corporations. Obama didn’t sell those same billionaires and conglomerates the major news outlets. The voting population in America only know what they’re told because they’re never taught to think critically. Look at the rise of disinformation regardless of political ideology. Look at the rise in scams.

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          you’re mixing up trump’s eventual misdeeds with the fact that the usa has undergone a massive transformation towards the right under the eight years of obama.

          i’m talking about the seeds which were sown, you’re talking about the harvest which followed. these are two separate things.

          each of your assertions have flourished under the manure of the obama tenure – even if they didn’t happen during his presidency.

          but, sure. live in denial and give him a pass. just don’t moan when history repeats itself. as a non-american, it’s no skin off my back.

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            Counter-point: the biggest thing Obama did to enrage the right was dare to be a successful black man. They’re the ones with the issue, man.

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            So Reagan’s two terms and his VPs term had nothing to do with it? The creation of the CNN 24 hour news cycle and the need to fill it had nothing to do with it? Decades of attacking public school budgets had nothing to do with that? Why the focus on Obama? These problems started 30 years before he was elected.

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    It’s 80 degrees in November. America has reelected a climate change denier. SUV sales continue to rise.

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    Hopefully dems nominate someone who actually has soul instead of a walking checklist like Kamala. Oh, who am I kidding? They won’t learn anything from this either.

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      Was that really the issue? She felt pretty “souly” to me. I’m wondering if it’s more voter turnout and people not being ready to vote for a woman (for whatever reason).

      I mean was Biden really above and beyond Harris? He beat Trump, and Trump arguably has even less going for him this election.

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        It was Martin Prince vs Bart Simpson.

        She ran a traditional campaign on issues, Trump got them chanting “More asbestos” difference is they voted.

        The Dems need to realise that this is now a popularity contest and you have to fight a cult of personality with a cult of personality.

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        He beat Trump,

        Yes, but after four years of being traumatized by Trump voters would have turned out for a blow-up doll. The same will probably happen in four years’ time, I reckon.

        I’d say Harris actually had a lot more “Not Trump” energy than Biden could ever muster, but her inability to promise the voting anything other than just more of the same and the fact that Biden and the Dems have actually done zilch to stop the right-wing insanity in the past four years just demoralized the voting public.