• formergijoe@lemmy.world
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    I agree! If Elon musk cannot show up to his offices at Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, xAI, and Washington for 8 hours Monday-Friday, he should be fired without severance as CEO or co-chair of his government department.

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    Unless Musk somehow copied himself several times, he is working remote for most of his companies each day.

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    “Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome”. this is and was always the reason american businesses were eager to force everybody back tp work. eat the rich.

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      Don’t forget to include giving middle-management a reason to exist as well as justifying the commercial properties expenses! Man do I hate capitalism…

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    Then they aren’t really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.

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      But think of the billions of dollars of now unused office space. That’s horrible for real estate pricing, which is where many of these fucks are invested.

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        It’s not even a real estate issue sometimes. I worked in an office in an industrial facility- printing custom boxes. Everyone in an office job was on a hybrid schedule. No one’s job required them to be at the office. All conversations were by Slack, all meetings were by Zoom even if we were all in the office. They could have knocked down the office space and put in at least two more industrial printers. Considering how backed up we got around Christmas, that would have helped them.

        Some of this is just old assholes who think people need to be in the office all the time so they can watch them or something. I don’t know.

        At least they didn’t make me wear a tie.

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          My last job was highly similar. It honestly would have been more tolerable (the stress) if I’d just been able to work from home… I mean it’s not the sort of job you could pretend to do if not being monitored, it was metric-driven and triggered by customer contact… so what’s the point?

          They said “we want to foster communication so having people in the office does that!” Umm my department is the only one in the company that is chained to our desk…? We can’t get up because we have to be available for contacts… and when people come by to talk to us, it’s usually a bad thing because they are interrupting actual real work. To top it off, our cube cell thing was right next to the door where everyone hung out waiting for each other to go to lunch, and because we were the only department that did external contact, they didn’t even think to shut the fuck up.

          I’ll never willingly work in an office again. Not just because my disability makes commuting difficult sometimes, but because the environment is just -bad-.

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            Yeah, it’s miserable. I wasn’t kidding about the tie part either. Pretty much the only thing I liked about that job is that no one cared if I showed up in a T-shirt and sweatpants.

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                It absolutely hasn’t from my own personal experience. Maybe it’s the industry you’re in, but I’m amazed you haven’t at least seen things like people on their lunch breaks outside or in a restaurant or whatever wearing a tie.

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      they already said it themselves: “Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome” so no, it was never about efficiency. at all.

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        Don’t you love when someone from outside talks big shit pretending to know what YOUR job is and determining its not needed?

        Almost like firing people based on code written didn’t backfire last time…

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      Agreed 100%. I used to work a hybrid schedule and I was much more efficient when I was at home and could be both relaxed and not distracted or annoyed by coworkers.

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      Efficient for whom? The rich all have millions invested in commercial real estate so if it’s not about voluntary resignations it’s about that.

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      They are about more efficiency in enriching themselves. Forcing people back into inefficient office-based work is just a tool to fire huge chunks of them while filtering for those easier exploited.

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    At least they’re open about it: The entire point (according to them) is attrition. The actual plan is to make work for these people much more hostile so they quit.

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      Do you think our tax bills will drop if they succeed in forcing these million employees to quit?

      They said they want to run the government like a business, and it looks like that’s what they’re pursuing. Unfortunately, that just means they’ll give us the lowest quality service at the highest possible price.

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        They said they want to run the government like a business,

        In other words: terribly. They want to run the government terribly, exactly how business runs in this country.

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            They’ll spend all of their time changing the direction of what everyone is working on, hiring and firing people, and doing re-orgs…just like a real US business!

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    You got to love this. The Pentagon just failed its 7th audit in a row. It has a budget of $1tr. And yet the cost savings team decides that penny pinching by making life harder for workers is where the real savings are to be found. Not the giant black hole of finance which is the military industrial complex.

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      Noooo shhhhh, we’re not supposed to talk about HOW THE PENTAGON HAS NEVER PASSED AN AUDIT. We’re supposed to be talking about the border, come on people, get it together.

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      You’ve gotta look at it from the perspective of a poor multibillionaire who desperately needs to buy his fifth superyatch so he can work his five CEO jobs remotely

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        Probably better for the whitehouse staff, easier to work around him and his gaggle of sub-humans, cant exactly demand folks do something as easily if he aint there.

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      Remember when he complained about how many days of vacation Obama took, then took more than that in half as many years?

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    So, he and his cabinet will be working 8 hours a day at least 5 days a week in DC ? Can we get that in written please ?

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      Maybe not in DC, but don’t underestimate how many hours most of these psychopaths actually work. They do come to work (maybe not in DC, but to some office somewhere) and work for 100 hours a week, because they place no value on anything other than work. You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.

      Trump is a different story. He’ll say the golf course is his office, where he makes his deals.

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        You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.

        I can definitely fault them for that

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        Disagree. When you look at their schedules a lot of work hours are actually like lunch meetings or golf trips or whatever they need to do to justify networking without actual work.

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          I remember my last job, I would have to take days off for sick days, or half days for the Dentists. My boss however would send out emails like “Hey I am going out of town to Palm Springs, I’ll be there for 3 weeks, I will be available for phone from the golf course so I am really only taking 2 days of PTO”

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        There’s no way Musk “works” 100 hours a week. How do you think he’s found all this time to spend with his new bestie Donald? By all accounts the guy spends a significant amount of his time playing video games and on Twitter. His “work” is lunch meetings and zoom calls with the board where he just spitballs a bunch of nonsense.

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    So the government telling businesses how they have to operate is small government now?

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      Yes. Much more power to a small amount of rich morons and sycophants while firing most people actually doing government day-to-day work makes the government smaller…

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    Saying the quiet part out loud again.

    They believe that us not being forced to do what they want simply because they want it is a “privilege,” and one that they can and will just arbitrarily decree to be null and void.

    That says pretty much everything you meed to know about what they really think about everyone other than themselves.

    And ironically enough, what they think is that they themselves are privileged.

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    Working from home for all jobs that it is compatible with should be a mandate to help lower the amount of gas necessary for commuting.

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    why federal employees and not the private sector? oh right you want to fire half of the first group.

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        Most CEOs are the worst kind of trump bootlickers. And musk too. My last job, CEO thought musk was a genius and had a list of his “rules for business” laminated on his desk.

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        well it is enough for Elon to suggest it. that is the kind of presidency they will be running as is obvious from Disney, IBM etc going back to advertising with Xitter

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      That’s the thing which makes it all funny, RTO in the private sector was a failure.

      Sure some people went back cause they were forced to, but offering remote work for new positions is very popular now.

      Companies have power over their current employees but not the new ones. So the industry is becoming more remote friendly overall as salty CEOs cling on to their smaller and smaller workforce of in office loyalists.

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      It’s interesting they have multiple offices. Offices they’re already not in. If there was a time for a general strike it is forever ago.