But think of the billions of dollars of now unused office space. That’s horrible for real estate pricing, which is where many of these fucks are invested.
It’s not even a real estate issue sometimes. I worked in an office in an industrial facility- printing custom boxes. Everyone in an office job was on a hybrid schedule. No one’s job required them to be at the office. All conversations were by Slack, all meetings were by Zoom even if we were all in the office. They could have knocked down the office space and put in at least two more industrial printers. Considering how backed up we got around Christmas, that would have helped them.
Some of this is just old assholes who think people need to be in the office all the time so they can watch them or something. I don’t know.
My last job was highly similar. It honestly would have been more tolerable (the stress) if I’d just been able to work from home… I mean it’s not the sort of job you could pretend to do if not being monitored, it was metric-driven and triggered by customer contact… so what’s the point?
They said “we want to foster communication so having people in the office does that!” Umm my department is the only one in the company that is chained to our desk…? We can’t get up because we have to be available for contacts… and when people come by to talk to us, it’s usually a bad thing because they are interrupting actual real work. To top it off, our cube cell thing was right next to the door where everyone hung out waiting for each other to go to lunch, and because we were the only department that did external contact, they didn’t even think to shut the fuck up.
I’ll never willingly work in an office again. Not just because my disability makes commuting difficult sometimes, but because the environment is just -bad-.
Yeah, it’s miserable. I wasn’t kidding about the tie part either. Pretty much the only thing I liked about that job is that no one cared if I showed up in a T-shirt and sweatpants.
It absolutely hasn’t from my own personal experience. Maybe it’s the industry you’re in, but I’m amazed you haven’t at least seen things like people on their lunch breaks outside or in a restaurant or whatever wearing a tie.
they already said it themselves: “Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome”
so no, it was never about efficiency. at all.
Agreed 100%. I used to work a hybrid schedule and I was much more efficient when I was at home and could be both relaxed and not distracted or annoyed by coworkers.
They are about more efficiency in enriching themselves. Forcing people back into inefficient office-based work is just a tool to fire huge chunks of them while filtering for those easier exploited.
Then they aren’t really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.
But think of the billions of dollars of now unused office space. That’s horrible for real estate pricing, which is where many of these fucks are invested.
And billions of barrels of oil no longer being used and going to waste from all the travel not happening and extra heat needed.
It’s not even a real estate issue sometimes. I worked in an office in an industrial facility- printing custom boxes. Everyone in an office job was on a hybrid schedule. No one’s job required them to be at the office. All conversations were by Slack, all meetings were by Zoom even if we were all in the office. They could have knocked down the office space and put in at least two more industrial printers. Considering how backed up we got around Christmas, that would have helped them.
Some of this is just old assholes who think people need to be in the office all the time so they can watch them or something. I don’t know.
At least they didn’t make me wear a tie.
My last job was highly similar. It honestly would have been more tolerable (the stress) if I’d just been able to work from home… I mean it’s not the sort of job you could pretend to do if not being monitored, it was metric-driven and triggered by customer contact… so what’s the point?
They said “we want to foster communication so having people in the office does that!” Umm my department is the only one in the company that is chained to our desk…? We can’t get up because we have to be available for contacts… and when people come by to talk to us, it’s usually a bad thing because they are interrupting actual real work. To top it off, our cube cell thing was right next to the door where everyone hung out waiting for each other to go to lunch, and because we were the only department that did external contact, they didn’t even think to shut the fuck up.
I’ll never willingly work in an office again. Not just because my disability makes commuting difficult sometimes, but because the environment is just -bad-.
Yeah, it’s miserable. I wasn’t kidding about the tie part either. Pretty much the only thing I liked about that job is that no one cared if I showed up in a T-shirt and sweatpants.
Dude, that’s been every job for 40 years.
It absolutely hasn’t from my own personal experience. Maybe it’s the industry you’re in, but I’m amazed you haven’t at least seen things like people on their lunch breaks outside or in a restaurant or whatever wearing a tie.
they already said it themselves: “Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome” so no, it was never about efficiency. at all.
Don’t you love when someone from outside talks big shit pretending to know what YOUR job is and determining its not needed?
Almost like firing people based on code written didn’t backfire last time…
Read Project 2025, the plan is to get rid of federal employees and replace them with Trump loyalists.
Agreed 100%. I used to work a hybrid schedule and I was much more efficient when I was at home and could be both relaxed and not distracted or annoyed by coworkers.
Efficient for whom? The rich all have millions invested in commercial real estate so if it’s not about voluntary resignations it’s about that.
They are about more efficiency in enriching themselves. Forcing people back into inefficient office-based work is just a tool to fire huge chunks of them while filtering for those easier exploited.