• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    And those kids will grow up hateful and resentful of Israel, which will make it easy to mold them into the sort of people who commit the atrocities Hamas committed. Israel is creating their own future problem.

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      Yes. Even if Israel “eradicates” Hamas, the idea is still there, and with the trauma that these adults and children have gone through would probably take decades to heal, and even then many won’t heal at all and become extremists.

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      Israel is creating their own future problem.

      Which monsters like Netanyahu love. More excuse for genocide and conquest.

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      Kids in Germany in the 40s experienced bombing, and went on to form the European community with countries that were responsible for said bombing and acknowledged their country was in the wrong for voting in the Nazis. Why can’t Palestinian kids have the same emotional realisation?

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        Because Germany didn’t then exist under decades of apartheid where they were denied basic services just due to the accident of their birth. Even East Germans had it far, far better than Gazans.

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          The Nazis played on Germans agrievement over how they were treated post WW1 to gain support, Gaza only ended up on the situation it is now because surrounding countries kept attacking Isreal over the last 70 years and lost land to them, then Hamas/the PLO/etc have played on similar agrievements to get themselves into the leadership position and have now lead them into a war.

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              Yes, and when you do that, no journalists will chase you to scream, “BUT DO YOU CONDEMN ISRAEL?”

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              No, not no culpability, but understandable reasons for what they’ve had to do for their own safety over the years.

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                  Seems to be the escalation was Hamas invasion of their country on Saturday from where I’m sitting.

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                    Gaza is not Hamas and Hamas is not Gaza. Those children are innocent and they’re nearly half the population, as the post says. When you put a huge number of innocent people under siege, and kill more of them than were killed on your side, you’re escalating.

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            Gaza only ended up on the situation it is now because surrounding countries kept attacking Isreal over the last 70 years and lost land to them, then Hamas/the PLO/etc have played on similar agrievements to get themselves into the leadership position and have now lead them into a war.

            Just FYI, Gazans are refugees who were forced to the Gaza strip by… ISRAEL! Woohoo.

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              Yes, war creates refugees, always has. Maybe all those surrounding nations that went to war with Isreal should have considered that.

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            Israel didn’t exist there prior…

            They took land (rather, were given land by western empires that wasn’t there’s to give) and kicked out and killed those who were there. Yeah, that’s didn’t create any resentment at all I’m sure and it’s all the attacks that happened in response that caused it.

            Someone else can always be blamed. To act like Israel doesn’t share in the blame is probably one of the most ignorant statements I’ve heard.

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              Actually, we did have the right to give out that land as we won it from the Ottomans.

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        Adding onto the other poster’s comment, another reason is because the US will never pour unlimited money and resources into these people making sure they do.

        Europe didn’t pull itself up by its own bootstraps after WWII.

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        Why can’t Palestinian kids have the same emotional realisation?

        75 years of collective trauma