• TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world
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    “Mr. Musk, you recently shared a post that mentioned the workers were the ones who killed people and not Hitler without elaboration. Do you believe that Hitler bears no responsibility?”

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    As much as “I was just following orders” is not enough to excuse someone of their responsibility in atrocities, “I was just issuing orders” will not excuse anyone either.

    Anyone who thinks that just because someone didn’t pull the trigger, that means they’re not guilty, you can get your ass back in line to lick elons boots.

    This is in the same vein as “Hitler did some good things” kind of cognitive dissonance. While the statement may not be wholly false, the fact that anyone could overlook everything he did that was bad, to find some small piece of something he did that can be construed as “good” is simply trying to put an objectively evil person into a better light, when they do not deserve it.

    There are plenty of misunderstood people in history that did very good things, and were killed/maimed/murdered/imprisoned/tarred/feathered/whatever, because they did something that the wrong people saw as bad.

    Nobody should ever try to find a shining light of good deep down in the black abyss of Hitler’s life.

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    Musk needs to be strapped into a chair, “Clockwork Orange” style and forced to watch all 9 hours of “Shoah.”

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    Oh of course, if you fire all your public workers, you can’t have a genocide because there’s nobody to carry out your orders.

    Silly fucking me.

    I’m assuming we can look forward to all those cops and ICE agents being fired then.

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    It sounds like a pretty good argument for pushing back against the administration and not following orders.

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    I was taught to have zero tolerance when it comes to Nazism. If you don’t deal with them, they’ll deal with you…

    There is an unmarked ditch/grave for all the nazi soldiers and sympathizers from WWII near where I live. There is always room for more.

    ZERO TOLERANCE, motherfuckers!

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      There is an unmarked ditch/grave for all the nazi soldiers and sympathizers from WWII near where I live. There is always room for more.

      And so you piss and shit on their graves as much as possible right?

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        I feel like absent Hitler, they would not have self organized to put people in ovens. Whereas the workers would still have gone out and produced wealth (for another capitalist).

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          Ugh… Hitler was just the tip of a sick society. Does this mean every German at the time was guilty? No. Were they all innocent except him? No.
          Does this still need to be debated outside of middle school? NO!

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      I like this reading.

      I will also accept that maybe Elon is calling his right wing cultist followers dumb fucking sheep who will bend to their master’s will

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    These CEOs always claim they can’t do good for workers, because they need to please the shareholders. So now that the CEO of Tesla is sinking the company, where are these supposed all powerful merciless shareholders at? If I was a shareholder of Tesla I’d demand felon’s head for doing all this damn to my investment.

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        CEOs and politics go hand in hand. It’s the public broadcast that Elon can’t seem to curb that’s the problem.

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      There’s got to be tons of lawsuits right? Like all the people that have been fired and tons of people being affected negatively by musk probably have class action lawsuits and stuff?

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      It’s a meme stock, not an ‘investment’.

      And now Musk has parlayed it, and his various pyramid scheme-like companies into replacing as much of the US government as he can get away with with his junk.

      The US will suffer.

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    For a while I was holding on to sanity thinking “he’s an idiot and he’s just drawing attention to himself.” But now, to anyone that was still thinking “maybe he really is that clumsy, maybe he didn’t really mean it”, this is it. If you’re not getting it now you never will. He’s literally, in the literal sense of literally, a Nazi.

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        I can’t stand him. Interesting that’s the word you’ve used cos in Britain it’s considered ableist. Can I interest you in the word “wanker” instead? It rolls off the tongue nicely.

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        He’s an evil retard, with an infinite amount of wealth and power, if that’s not scary Indon’t know what is.

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        No.

        This sort of argument both minimises his accountability for his actions by blaming factors outside his control, and is incredibly insulting to the millions of people with actual mental disabilities who manage not to be racist assholes.

        Elon is a Nazi, full stop.

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        I’ve known a number of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. They’re often quite kind-hearted, loving people. Musk is not. You don’t need to insult them twice by comparing Musk to them, and using hateful terminology while you do it.

        Maybe call Musk an asshole, a nazi, a shitass fucking fleck of rotten cumstain stuck to Trump’s taint instead.

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          What do those people have to do with Musk being a retard? Would youcall them retarded? I’m guessing not. Most people don’t use the world that way anymore.

          It’s clearly been repurposed and it’s getting quite silly how upset.

          The definition of the word has nothing do with disabilities:

          To keep delaying; to continue to hinder; to prevent from progress; to render more slow in progress; to impede; to hinder;

          When someone calls Musk a retard they obviously do not mean he is disabled. They are referring to the base definition of the word.

          Now downvote me because you disagree but be aware of the irony in retarding the word from being changed from an insult towards people who are disabled to a word that describes a deep rooted willful ignorance.

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          Don’t forget “a cunt”. Sorry… I’m Australian and not calling Elon Musk a cunt feels wrong.

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            He’s definitely a Nazi cunt by Aussie definition. But lacking the warmth and depth, he fails to meet American criteria.