lol. lmao even
It’s hilarious coz Trump started this who ban tiktok saga, baited democrats into running with it for Biden’s whole term, and then swooped in at quite literally the 11th hour to restore it from the evil censorship-loving liberals to thunderous applause from everyone.
Unlike the democrats, trump actually tries to win. It’s one of the main things that people like about him.
Also, insert twitter screenshot of the guy saying that ever since 2016, the dems have just gotten dunked over and over by a golden retriever while they were clutching a rulebook and screeching about the integrity of the sport.
It’s why he clashes with the GOP so much, coz he simply doesn’t care about turning about face on stuff if it makes him popular.
He even softened the republican stance on abortion (or at least claimed to) by saying it should be a “states issue” rather than pushing for a nationally-unpopular federal ban. Which of course is still shitty but it’s clear he’s more interested in power for the sake of it than the GOP’s principles.
Really makes it seem like it’s all theater.
Even if the slop creators go back to Tiktok, Xiaohongshu is a much better experience. Within a day its algorithm started feeding me pretty much nothing but naturalists excited about plants and camping/hiking. Like Hexbear removing all of reddit’s gamification elements, that’s so much closer to authentic social media. I get much more value comparing native botany with someone in Yunnan than I do from endlessly scrolling a slopified stream of western social media equivalents.
My feed is full of muscular Chinese women
Kung Fu Hustler
All I’m getting is communist music, PLA hardbass edits, cosplayers, and occasionally “American friends, is this just propaganda or do you actually have to [pay for ambulances, eat raw unseasoned broccoli for lunch, die in school shootings every week]”
So I guess it’s working pretty well
Yea, xhs is better than tiktok. Idk why, but I think it is partially because there is no capacity for Americans to make money directly from the app rn. There are more restrictions on that stuff in China anyway, but no way to get paid without a Chinese ID.
Pretty sure you can still do product placement and shit, but I think youd get banned if you aren’t doing it as required.
I don’t mind the algo though. It didn’t take long to push it in a certain direction. I imagine I’ll stop using it soon though, because at the end of the day it’s still just easily palatable slop. Cool seeing the books Chinese nerds are reading though. I’ll likely keep coming back for that lol.
I like how you can modify your algorithm, I can’t read it for **** yet but it’s cool that it’s there!
yet
this is the kind of growth mindset that I admire
yeah the algorithm is infinitely easier to sway. interacting with content and hitting the “not interested” button feels like it works 50x more efficient than tiktok.
also haven’t seen any ads, or promotional videos that pretend to not be ads. no hearing the same dozen trending audios over and over and over. the memes are funnier, the creative stuff is more creative, the content is more original, and the people are less toxic. + photos in comments. all around a much better experience
also haven’t seen any ads, or promotional videos that pretend to not be ads.
If you see anything which is using a specific product, it is likely an ad. The app has a shop built in, so that poster making tea content is actually selling you tea.
I’ve seen tons of these
i’m sure i saw product placement at some point but i’m scrolling through a hundred videos rn and not seeing a single one. and the shop’s hidden whereas tiktok throws it in your face and gives you promo popups
TikTok has the same “not interested” feature. I think xhs works about the same, just more aggressive. It’s actually a little annoying that I watch one video of coffee or something, then I get like a dozen more after thay; then, it takes a while for the algorithm to show me wildcard content to add to the mix. This might just be an early-algorithm issue though.
It has a sort of “decay” for a topic and will show less if you ignore it a little.
I agree. Im keeping it on my phone and scrolling it still. Ill stick around tiktok but it is already worse than it was (my feed is 50% ads) and will inevitably become worse
no one will remember this whole affair by 2026
no one will remember this by next week
I don’t even remember what I scrolled down from in this thread
what website am i on right now?
It’s called Chexbear, and it’s a fansite for the cereal Chex.
takes a mandatory sip of ChexDew soda to load the next post
Do it for the Vine™
Aparently the catch is if it goes to at least 50% American ownership it can stay. And what will become of it then?
Yeah this is the end of tiktok as it was. It will become shit, exactly how depends on who buys it.
That’s always been what was demanded and Byte Dance refused before. Trump will probably torpedo it still.
Frankly, this makes me NOT want to go back.
that’ll show 'em
With the ceasefire in Gaza and this, the Democrats are hurting what usually is their strongest demographic in the youth.
Ngl I feel that Obama and Bernie are really the only major democratic figures that actually wanted to talk to the youth (one with false promises and the other with tacit growth of some labor benefits that never actually came), the rest of the dem infrastructure is geared toward the belief that their aged moderate demographic will last forever or not continually show themselves to be right wing reactionaries.
tldr the dems hate the youth because the youth want actual material change that hurts the status qou
There’s an assumption among dem strategists that “the left” is locked in to voting Dem and so they don’t need to bother catering to them. After all, they’re politically aware enough that they’re going to vote, and where else are they going to go? I would generally assume they count “the youth” as part of that bloc that they don’t need to put any effort into getting onside.
The youth shall become socialists
Dems have spent a decade telling everybody under 50 that what we want is impossible and we should stop talking and just give them our undying support, and be grateful for the opportunity.
if trump keeps throwing people a bone and making as much political hay about the easiest moves in the world, the Democrats are finished.
not saying he will, but can you imagine if he took some opportunity to publicly shit on some medical insurance exec and fuck with them on a personal level? nothing structural or threatening to capital, but purely making an example of one asshole to throw red meat into the angry crowd.
his project would be swimming in political capital and libs would throw themselves on the fire to defending civility.
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Is this the first time since 9/11 that the “it’s for national security” bullshit blank check finally failed?
I mean that reason is probably going to lose out if there’s an opportunity for Trump to look good
Like with the nuclear secrets they walked off with lol
I was talking about it last night by the dems have fucked up so badly it’s unreal. These bozos were outflanked by Donald “wet boy” Trump, how embarrassing.
“Americans deserve to see our exciting Inauguration on Monday, as well as other events and conversations,” [Trump] wrote. “I would like the United States to have a 50% ownership position in a joint venture. By doing this, we save TikTok, keep it in good hands and allow it to say up. Without U.S. approval, there is no Tik Tok. With our approval, it is worth hundreds of billions of dollars - maybe trillions.”
Hopefully ByteDance doesn’t get strong-armed into 50% US ownership. That would be, like, the most awkward divorced parents situation ever
I don’t know how they can get strong armed, they’re clearly willing to call the USs bluff and get banned. What other leverage is there?
The key here is the joint venture, because it opens up the possibility for a US-China joint venture inside China as well.
Read my comment here in the news mega for how the US can potentially play this game.
If the US says you share your TikTok algorithm with us, and you let Meta inside China and we share some of our AI technology with you and lift the other AI restrictions Biden has put into place, will you take it?
If the US says what if Meta/some US tech companies invest $100 billion into China to help boost your domestic consumption, will you take it?
If the US says, we will cut the Fed rates further in 2025 to help alleviate your local government debt burden, will you take it?
In other words, the stick is mutually assured destruction - if you don’t want to play ball, I’ll make the situation so much worse for both of us. The carrot is you give us some of what we want and we promise not to further our threats, and we both come out of this with our respective PR wins. You have 1.4 billion of people to take care of, think about them.
It’s a classic dilemma of “saving your economy” and “preserving or giving up parts of your sovereignty” for China. There are going to be red lines, and there are going to be compromises. All the tariffs, sanctions and bans set the initial conditions for negotiations that can then be bargained down to a point where both sides are satisfied with.
In these types of stand-offs, the Americans usually win, as they are at any point prepared to inflict massive damage upon their own population solely to hurt their adversary. Sure, the tariffs are going to hurt China’s export-oriented economy, but it’s also going to cause massive price inflation among Americans, which is going to push even more of them into desperate poverty. However the people in Washington who make these decisions don’t have to care about an extra 10 million people being made homeless over 5 years, or 50 million going bankrupt because of the added pressure on their finances (mind the recent articles from various banks about American credit card defaults being at the highest level since 2009-2010).
When it comes to exerting brutality against its own people, capitalists will always win over socialists.
The worst part is that many export economies that get destroyed in the process will still have to get IMF loans to save them anyway aka privatization, so they might as well cede some of the conditions to the US imperialists and pray that the worst won’t come to them.
China is a far stronger economy though but certainly not without significant challenges in its economy, so we’ll see how this plays out.
Is TikTok worth all of that? I’m skeptical.
Is TikTok and US AI tech really seen as real leverage? They seem more like distractions and spectacle. Tarrif’s, sanctions, the fed etc I could see making significant compromises but I don’t really know enough about the situation and what their analysis of how much the economy would be helped etc.
I thought Meta was out of China because they didn’t want to follow Chinese law so got kicked out, would they really change the laws for Meta? (Maybe Meta has changed its mind and would rather be in China than not)
Well it’s not clear that they can even legally sell the algorithm to the US, but all things are negotiable and perhaps China is also willing to compromise on this issue to win favor with Trump from the get-go. I hope that’s not the case but I don’t think any politician on any side cares about the app as such, it’s a proxy war of sorts.
The only upside for the DNC shitlibs is that it’s as far away from the midterms as possible and USian voters have the political memory of a goldfish
is this the shortest lived ban ever?
I saw it compared to when spongebob and patrick were in jail for 1 second (for stealing a balloon on national free balloon day)
I got a longer ban for a diarrhea joke.
ok what was it and where’d you get banned for this masterpiece of a joke im assuming?
There was a series of content-farming posts where there was a picture of a take-out restaurant and the title was “What are you getting?”
I made a joke about getting diarrhea from an ethnic restaurant, and given certain context, violence against ethnic minorities, and stereotypes it was considered by users and mods to be racist.
FIY the way people in the US use “ethnic” as a descriptor for things that are unfamiliar to them is also racism/xenophobia. If you can’t see why, think about why nobody calls Chipotle or Olive Garden “ethnic restaurants” despite their menus narrowly corresponding to cuisines of certain ethnicities.
The trump shoutouts are a great move. The baby in chief loves seeing his own name.
what’s even the point
“As a result of President Trump’s efforts”
Trump = bread and circuses , that’s the point. Pavlovian conditioning.
Trump equal good feelings of TikTok back
That was even faster than I thought
