Russia-Ukraine war: Zelenskyy urges ‘firm and decisive’ international response to ‘latest act of Russian madness’ – as it happened
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Russian leader claims experimental ballistic missile cannot be intercepted and says Moscow will keep testing and begin serial production

Kremlin says hypersonic missile strike on Ukraine was a warning to the west

The Kremlin said on Friday that a strike on Ukraine using a newly developed hypersonic ballistic missile was designed to warn the west that Moscow will respond to moves by the US and the UK to let Kyiv strike Russia with their missiles.

According to Agence France-Presse (AFP), the Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, was speaking a day after Russian president, Vladimir Putin, said Moscow had fired the new missile – the Oreshnik or ‘hazel tree’- at a Ukrainian military facility.

Peskov said Russia had not been obliged to warn the US about the strike, but had informed the US 30 minutes before the launch anyway. Putin remained open to dialogue, Peskov said.

  • nick@midwest.social
    3818·
    5 days ago

    I suppose it’s also NATOs fault Russia invaded Ukraine in the first place?

    • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4910·
      5 days ago

      Pretty much, yes. If one great power keeps threatening and encroaching on another and undermines all attempts at diplomacy, it’s pretty obvious what is going to happen.

    • Gucci_Minh [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      446·
      5 days ago

      Yes lmao, if they didn’t ignore the minsk agreements and do a coup (maidan) to install a CIA handpicked government, this would not have happened.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      5523·
      5 days ago

      Yes, as many western experts explained in great detail for many decades now. Yet, we still have ignoramuses running around pretending that’s not the case. Even Stoltenberg has admitted this on record at this point, time to update your script

      He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that. So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders.

      https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm

      • originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee
        913·
        5 days ago

        “We didn’t accept his demands for how we protect member states so he went to war” isn’t the defense you seem to think it is

          • Lupus@feddit.org
            1010·
            5 days ago

            From:

            Last I checked it was NATO that started launching missiles into Russia escalating the conflict, but do go on champ.

            To:

            One problem being that Ukraine isn’t a member state. 🤡

            So which one is it?

            Would you also say that North Korea is attacking Ukraine since it’s North Korean artillery shells being lobbed into Ukraine?

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
              1315·
              5 days ago

              What’s the contradiction there? NATO wasn’t directly involved in the war in Ukraine, now it is. What part of that are you struggling to understand?

              Meanwhile, zero actual evidence for DPRK attacking Ukraine, but I guess that’s not going to stop western intellectuals from talking about it.

              • Lupus@feddit.org
                1012·
                5 days ago

                Meanwhile, zero actual evidence for DPRK attacking Ukraine, but I guess that’s not going to stop western smoothbrains from talking about it.

                I forgot we live in “what I don’t like is obviously not true” land here, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, for example actual footage of North Korean soldiers arriving in Russian training camps, Putin himself doesn’t even denies it, but anything to lick some boot I guess.

                You’re not arguing in good faith, as exemplified by your double standards regarding foreign involvement, so I know that you’re gonna write something about “manipulated footage”, ask for sources you could easily Google yourself and overall try to move the overall framing of the conversation to something else because the exchange of information is not the point for you.

                I have neither the strength nor the patience to argue with utterly deranged idiots whose worldview would make Marx roll over in his grave.

    • IWantToMakeProgress [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      41·
      4 days ago

      Why is Ukraine the West’s Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer - Date: Sep 26, 2015

      John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago, assesses the causes of the present Ukraine crisis, the best way to end it, and its consequences for all of the main actors. A key assumption is that in order to come up with the optimum plan for ending the crisis, it is essential to know what caused the crisis. Regarding the all-important question of causes, the key issue is whether Russia or the West bears primary responsibility.

      Watch this and think for yourself. A very similar comparison is Cuban Missile Crisis 1962.