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      Oh no! How will you ever survive keep your foot on the necks of those less fortunate than you?

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      They don’t understand how paying for things works.

      They also don’t understand how incompetent the government actually is.

      They think that if you fund the government more, they won’t have any worry again. Just give the government more money and all your problems will be solved.

      They also think ‘someone else’ will fund the government, and not them. They’re living in a fantasy land

      What they don’t understand is that this ends with everyone being broke and the government still being absolutely incompetent meaning everyone is now even worse off than they were before.

      The money needs to stay in the peoples pockets and the governments reach into your life needs to stay as minimal as possible. Trust the people, not the government.

      Fund the people, not the government.

      Give us our money back and leave us alone

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        The government is incompetent. Vote for me and I’ll prove it!

        -every conservative ever elected

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          You’ve had 12 years of Democrat leadership with 4 years of Republican squished in there. Are things better now?

          Of course not.

          Things seemed pretty good with republicans in office to everyone. Now that the democrats are backed, everything’s quickly gone to shit again

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            Who the fuck thought things felt good when Trump was in office? When did we actually have a Democrat run government? Even right now GOP has thrown a wrench in everything. Who is it everytime the debt ceiling needs to be raised threatens to shut down the government? Even when Biden had the senate and house CONSERVATIVES stopped the Dems agenda. No, no, no, you don’t get to be obstructionists then say, “well why didn’t democrats stop us from shitting on Americans?”

            Get out, you fucking disgrace.

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              When did we actually have a Democrat run government?

              The first two years of Obama is when Democrats controlled both houses and the white house. It’s the only reason we were able to get Obamacare and even then the Republican’s obstruction prevented a public option. Republicans even shut down the government trying to avoid paying for it.

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            Are things better now?

            Yes they are actually. We’re out of the pointless war Bush started. Unemployment is at the lowest it’s been in decades. Obamacare is a first step toward socialized medicine. Infrastructure is finally getting properly funded and fixed. The largest road blocks have been that 4 years squished in the middle that saw tax cuts on the rich and the republicans in the Senate refusing to raise taxes on the rich.

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                1. Right, our current metrics for prosperity in armerica are absolute shit. Economy, unemployment, and stock market mean nothing to the majority of Americans which are living pay check to pay check with 50 years of stagnation in wage increases.

                2. The poorest of Americans got fucked when the affordable care act got rolled out because red states REFUSED aid! All by design to undermine the policy.

                3. Democrats keep putting forward legislation to help infrastructure and the GOP keeps hiding behind a God damn self imposed culture war.

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              Remember when they got together and rewrote the tax code to help corporations? Remember when they pulled us out of the green new deal? Remember when buddied up to North Korea and Saudia Arabia? Remember when they told us to drink bleach and shove a light up our ass to stop the spread of covid? Remember when they handed out government loans to companies with zero regulation then forgave them? Remember when they put another sexual predator on the Supreme Court? Remember when one broke into the house of the minority leader and attacked her husband with a hammer? Remember when they marched with torches on Charlotte? Remember when they attacked the capital?

              The list goes on.

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          I actually need the government to ‘help’ me less.

          Much much less please. Just let me take care of myself and my family and stay the fuck out of my pockets and my life.

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            None of us are an “Army of One”, none of us can do it all alone. We need each other. We’re stronger together, than apart.

            And part of that means we tithe to each other for common cause, to “lift all boats”.

            And we should definitely have intellectually honest conversations to decide what is needed to ‘lift all boats’.

            But if one side is just trying to constantly throw wrenchs into the machinery to prevent having to tithe to the common good, then the center will not hold.

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        I’d rather pay taxes and get healthcare, education, roads, safety nets, social security, armies, research, etc. This can happen. Other countries do it.

        Republicans are the ones that say government doesn’t work…and when they are elected they work hard to make sure this is true.

        Biden tried to give the working class student loan forgiveness. Republicans stopped it. He is trying again to make this happen for the working class. And I’m sure Republicans are trying to stop it.

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          Other countries do it.

          And the U.S. is subsidizing their defense. So of course they have money to spend on these things.

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          But you are paying taxes and not getting those things.

          I don’t even know how student loan forgiveness would even work, won’t other generations also have student debt? What about people who already paid for their schooling? Will they get a rebate? Will my kids get their student loans paid for too?

          It’s such a ridiculous policy, it makes no sense whatsoever.

          Can I get mortgage forgiveness?

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            We’re paying taxes and could be getting more of these things if republicans didn’t try so hard to stop them

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        I’ll never understand the sentiment of “our government sucks, so get rid of it”, you’re literally playing directly into the conservatives hands.

        Vote better people in to fix the fucking thing

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        Since you deleted the post where you called me stupid, you should really learn what a Kender is before you spout off about even more shit that you know nothing about.