Speaking at a news conference in Doha, Qatar, alongside Qatar’s prime minister and minister of foreign affairs, Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, Mr. Blinken said that “a deal was on the table that was virtually identical” to one that Hamas put forward on May 6.

At some point, he said, “you have to question whether they’re proceeding in good faith or not.”

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    5 months ago

    the day after the British protectorate ended?

    That’s a weird place to start the clock…

    Like, you understand that wasn’t that long after that land was all Palestine and the people who had lived there for generations had just been forced out with violence?

    That’s like if you robbed someone but instead of leaving you just stayed in their house and made them live in the backyard for months while threatening them at gunpoint…

    Then one day you sold the gun.

    Would you be surprised the family took the opportunity to get their house back?

    What do you expect that family to do if your brother was the Sheriff and the cops took your side?

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      What other starting point makes sense?

      Jewish people had been there just as long as the Muslim population, they both have 1000+ year histories in that region.

      The Ottoman empire (which controlled the region and a lot more) collapsed after WW1 due to a myriad of reasons, including losing the war. It was split up among some of the allied countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

      Because that’s what happens when you lose a war.

      If we’re talking about returning land that changed hands during/after WW1, there’s going to be about a thousand more border changes than just for Israel. Massive swaths of Europe changed hands over that period.

      Specifically, if you want Israel to hand land back, does that mean that Finland needs to be handed back to the Russians? They owned the country (and a bunch of other countries) prior to the end of WW1.

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      There hasn’t been a sovereign and native state on that land since the Roman conquest of Judea lmfao

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        Nope, but there has been a native population, blood thirsty colonizer.

        The land wasn’t empty. You don’t get to pretend it was.

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          So your position is that it’s more legitimate for someone to live there because their ancestors moved there under the Ottomans rather than people whose ancestors lived there before the Romans and moved back under the British?

          I don’t give a fuck about any of that. What I care about is that the Jewish militias were happy to accept sharing the land with a Palestinian state, while the Palestinians decided that any possible Israeli state was unacceptable and declared war.

          The entire conflict stems from their inability to accept peaceful coexistence.