A new report by UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese shows how Israel has subverted international law to provide a legal cover for genocide.
  • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I’ve heard this argument before so many times now it’s weird. They (the person you are going back and forth with for example) 100% agree that Israel is taking all the actions. They are killing civilians, creating a situation in which food and aid are both dangerous and inconsistent, and use AI to specifically target family homes with large numbers of civilians.

    The civilian casualties aren’t high because Hamas used human shields to make it high, it’s high because the IDF allowed for and made specific rules that targeting civilians was ok en masse, as collateral damage, using Lavender.

    Hamas didn’t make Israel pursue this war in a way that was purposely destructive towards civilians. Israel chose to do this at every turn in reaction to Oct 6th. Israel has all the power in this situation to do things differently.

    It’s not like I don’t get, I would want revenge too, but at some point they’re going to be forced to admit that the pain to the civilians is part of the point. And that their ACTUAL argument is that the civilians deserve it because of Hamas.

    • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      They (the person you are going back and forth with for example) 100% agree that Israel is taking all the actions

      You would hope so but I’m not sure about that. He just blamed the famine on Hamas.

      it’s high because the IDF allowed for and made specific rules that targeting civilians was ok en masse, as collateral damage, using Lavender

      Yeah I read about this. Disgusting. Imagine putting that low a value on human life. Makes me sick to my stomach.

      at some point they’re going to be forced to admit that the pain to the civilians is part of the point. And that their ACTUAL argument is that the civilians deserve it because of Hamas.

      Exactly. But they’re all too cowardly to admit this.

      They don’t seem to see that they’ve lost the moral high ground and they will never regain it again. I for one won’t forget or stop speaking out about this bullshit until the day I die. When the court convicts them of genocide people like JustZ here will either have to re-evaluate and maybe grow as a person or stick their fingers in their ears and claim the court is just so antisemitic and Israel has been innocent all along. I think it’s clear which is more likely