“You have to pick one of us, it’s a two-party system.”

“Well I believe I’ll vote for a 3rd party candidate!”

“GO AHEAD, THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY!”

What we want is a cease fire except we don’t cease firing.

Yeah sure thing bro

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Go Corbyn! Despite all the smears he remains a good person fighting for what is right

Yeah I’m sure Putin’s top priority is infiltrating the Linux nerds and Trekkies in their natural habitat. Facebook? Nah. Reddit? Nyet. We need to go where the real action is.

I think this is less of a problem than you’re implying

The original and a still large instance is Lemmy.ml. The ML meaning Marxist Leninist.

Yeah I know, I subscribe to some communities there.

They even preemptively ban accounts who post outside of their instance if you say truthful things like NATO is a defensive alliance, Russia is the aggressor in Ukraine, or China is being imperialist themselves in SE Asia.

I will test this then! Russia is the aggressor in Ukraine and Putin is a cunt. Stalin was a monster. I’ll make similar comments over on ml at the next opportunity. (Edit let’s see how it goes https://lemmy.world/comment/11002066)

Just to be clear. I don’t doubt that there are normal people here who are pro Russia or are tankies. What I doubt is that real people are being paid money to “influence the conversation” on this relatively obscure platform. That’s all

Yeah but on Lemmy? Of all places?

Why would anyone pay someone to post on Lemmy? Not the biggest expense/exposure ratio, surely?

Lemmy is flooded with Russian influence

What do you mean by that? That people use “Russian” talking points or that there are literally bots/agitators directly from Russia trying to shape the narrative here?

Most moral army in the world

That would be a really shit poll though, your methodology would be “I found people who I knew would answer the question this way” and everyone would see. If there is a methodological issue with this poll that isn’t hand-waving I’d be interested to hear it.

E.g. “but who answers the phone anymore?” They know this issue and use a bunch of complicated statistical shit to adjust for it or just improve the methodology. The people making these polls actually tend to know what they’re doing.

This is just the “I won’t vote for Biden because Israel refuses to sign a ceasefire” bullshit all over again.

This is incredibly disingenuous. More like “Because he is arming, supporting and diplomatically protecting a genocidal government.” We know it’s not his fault Israel are assholes, it’s the stuff he is doing that is the problem.

They have no problem whatsoever with Trump’s policies. They have no problem whatsoever with project 2025.

My brother in christ why do you think we want Biden to actually be a good candidate?

Genocide supporting, doddering old Biden is a much better candidate than the unhinged far right felon that wouldn’t know the truth if it pissed on his face, BUT HE NEEDS TO WIN THE ELECTION FIRST. If being not as bad as trump was enough Hilary would have won.

It is precisely because I hate trump so much that I want Biden to be better. If you are in a debate with Trump and most people watching think you lost, you fucked up big time. The pigeon you’re playing chess with might have shit on the board and felt like he won, but you should have at least done enough so that the audience watching this didn’t fucking agree with him.

There were reflectors left on the moon that you can shine a significantly strong laser to and have it reflected back if you have a sensor that can pick it back up.

Yeah this is the huge issue for moon landing deniers. Also they have pictures of the landing site from the lunar reconnaissance orbiter, not that “school of hard knocks” alumni would believe that anyway (I tried once, did not convince them).

I was mainly using it as an example of how you could argue there was an element of “faith” at play, being generous. But of course you are right.

I’m unable to articulate the natural reaction that I have when somebody tries to sell me garbage. I can’t articulate it when somebody explains to me, ‘Well, the moon landings definitely happened.’"

Owens continued: “I’m just like, no, I don’t know. Instinctually, it just doesn’t register to me. Just feels like that is a lie. And I’ve realized that I’ve been thinking deeply about this, this pagan cult that we exist in. It is backed by a false science deity. That is what it is. It is the science. This is the new god.”

So she just “instinctively” doesn’t believe stuff that “feels” like a lie, and this proof that everyone else worships the “science deity.” No mention of the giant rocket that left the surface of the earth and the video footage of both that and the surface of the moon itself?

This is the fundamental problem with this type of thinking. Sure you have some aspect of faith (I wasn’t there, can’t 100% confirm the authenticity of the footage myself), but it’s clearly based on quite a solid piece of evidence. Dismissing that, on the other hand, is literally based on faith, her faith that this footage is fake based on no evidence whatsoever.

I contribute that, maybe, to coming from the school of hard knocks," she said, adding, “I am grateful for having gone through the school of hard knocks because you are required to have an element of common sense in order to survive.”

The “school of hard knocks” apparently does not have a good science program.

I only read this article to work out why she specified “pagan” and I still have no idea.

Åkesson joined SD when it was openly a Nazi party to “change it from the inside.” Could not be more like the comic. All he got them to do was update the rhetoric. If there was another panel of the comic, all of the same people would be there but they just wouldn’t be wearing the uniforms anymore and he’d be sitting there all smug saying “mission accomplished.”

Yep, everyone claims to be a “moderate” when it suits them, especially the far right. Like Åkesson they realise the optics are bad and put on a nice suit while supporting the same horrendous shit they always did

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But also due probability, I simply trust the IDF explanation about a million more times than I trust the explanation of anyone who supports Hamas’s ideology.

So by “probability” you mean that you feel that the IDF is less likely to lie than Hamas?

Despite saying (correctly)

I’m very sure that Israel has some liars in charge right now.

The thing is, we don’t need to trust Hamas. There is a good chance there are tunnels under any particular building (far under but let’s put a pin in that for now). So when Israel bombs a water facility, there is probably a tunnel at least close by, about 10 m down or whatever.

But the question isn’t whether there’s a tunnel. The question is what Israel is targeting. The only people who can answer that are those in the Israeli government and military, which you acknowledge contains “some liars.” We don’t even need to see what Hamas says. So why do you trust their explanation?

And now we grasp at straws. Anything to avoid facing the reality of the situation.

He might have had a bad connection for a second. It would be more compelling if it had been, I don’t know, on the debate stage with 50 million people watching.

Everyone rightfully talks about how awful Trump is, but as soon as Biden does something like support a genocide or come across like a doddering old man in a debate, all of a sudden “Trump does it too” is apparently a defense.

Before someone jumps down my throat about the election being a choice between two people, it’s not. People might also hate both and not vote. Not saying it’s wise, just saying it’s possible.