• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    This is one of the only reasons I’m still a little hopeful about 2024. Even if Trump wins, he very well could not control the legislature. And because of abortion.

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      trump would veto everything passed by a democrat-controlled congress that didn’t pass with near-unanimous support from republicants, too; abuse tf out of ‘executive orders’ (even more than the first go around); stack scotus even more; and further empower other nutjobs to follow in his diaper droppings.

      trump moving back to 1600 penn ave nw would be a disaster from which this nation would not recover.

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        7 months ago

        Sure, but he would also not be able to pass laws that he needed to pass in order to cement his dictatorship plans. Which is why I have a slight amount of optimism.

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          The world’s-most-evil-sun-dried-tangelo led an insurrection and is successfully running for president again with people carrying out conversations such as “why Trump’s serious attempt at dictatorship might not be so bad.” If he wins, I’d expect any dissenting Dems to be forced out either by pressures within or legitimate coordinated attacks from MAGA supporters.

          Hell, there’s a high probability powerful political adversaries will be straight up killed and they’d call it Operation Hummingbird to honor the true architect of the current Conservative playbook.

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            I don’t disagree, but I am going to cling to any shred of hope I can cling to. I can’t just accept that all is lost until all is actually lost.

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            7 months ago

            One of the things that convinced a few Never Trumpers to quit was the risk of violence. They’ll be happy to expand the program.

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          Why would he even bother with all of the red tape and process to pass laws? He would just issue imperial edicts executive orders to do whatever he wanted. Laws have never meant shit to him. And why would they? He breaks them with impunity and never faces any real consequences. If he has an unfriendly congress, he’ll ignore them.

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            Well there’s the fact that the Supreme Court regularly overturned his Executive Orders the first time and also the fact that they are limited in scope and can be reversed as easily as they are issued.

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              Yeah, the Supreme Court has sure shown how it’s going to be an impediment to him lately…

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                  Some days I just wish I could view the world through the addled brains of dolts like you who are just incapable of the most basic critical thinking… It must be a terrifying reality for you, just feeling your way blindly through the dark. It’s honestly sad as fuck.

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          Dictatorship plans?

          Will the democrats stop pursuing gun control in the face of this imminent threat of conservatives attempting to take control of the state to install an authoritarian government?

          SocialistRA.org

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            Yeah if only the Bundys had guns, they totally would have succeeded in overthrowing the federal government 🙄. Oh wait, they did. It’s almost as if it means nothing against the most powerful military the world will ever see.

            And as if Democrats are pursuing any kind of legislation that actually does anything to curb gun violence. Just another idiot falling for the propaganda that Democrats want to take away your precious anal dildos guns.

            Who cares about facts and objective reality when something just feels right?

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        Worst case in the scenario as presented is you just don’t do anything for four years.

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          Worst case scenario is he comes to power with more dedicated goons as his cabinet and they just do what they want while the already captured courts find new ways to delay and avoid cases so that he never faces any functional check on them. The System is not self-actuating and is already near the breaking point.

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          And what do you think happens after 4 years? Trump, “I will only be a dictator for one day, trust me,” will just willingly and peacefully hand over power?

          Are you a fucking moron?

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            My comment totally deserved a personal insult for some reason. You’ve attacked me and managed to avoid contributing anything to the conversation.

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      He’s not aiming to depend on the legislature.

      Going to replace career non-partisan positions across most departments.

      Once you own the paper pushers, doing things by the book becomes much less relevant.

      In theory there were rules in Germany that would have prevented Hitler up until the point he declared those rules no longer applied and his armed militia agreed with him.

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      It’s a truly bizarre single issue to focus on considering how high impact it is to the masses and how it presumably isn’t enabling them to make more money or solidify control.

      If they just brought in a couple of populist policies that made the masses happy they probably would have majority control indefinitely on a platform of hate against the minority.