President Biden vowed on Monday to veto a House Republican bill that would provide $17.6 billion in aid to Israel, calling it a “cynical political maneuver” intended to hurt the chances of passage for broader legislation that would provide money for Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan and the U.S. border.

House Republicans fiercely oppose the larger bill, which was unveiled by a small, bipartisan group of senators over the weekend. It calls for $118.3 billion in spending and would overhaul some of the nation’s immigration laws to deal with recent surges of migrants at the southern border.

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    11 months ago

    It’s unfortunate that I have run into people that don’t believe that. I once got called a flipflopper because I commented one stance based on inaccurate information I had, and was given new accurate information which changed my mind.

    People be treating reality like a high school debate club and just sticking with a position because that’s what they choose at the beginning. You can change your mind. Especially if it’s based on new information you didn’t have before.

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      Right? I knew that Gaza was bad before this conflict but I didn’t have any real information. I then went and educated myself and I have a pretty firm opinion on the subject now which is different than it used to be.

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      Highschool debate club has failed if that’s what people compare actual debate to. It’s necessary to take a firm stand in a discussion, even being devil’s advocate is fine, as long as it happens objectively.

      But I guess HS debates just end after three rounds and then no retrospective happens about what stance (not WHO) was right and why.

      TL;DR HS debates were supposed to be better than this.

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        11 months ago

        To be fair: My high school fuckin’ sucked.

        But also: judged competitions don’t usually see one side agree with the other after hearing their side… That seems like a sure fire way to lose the competition.

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          Yeah during the debate you defend your position, but the retrospective after is lost. The thing that would connect the whole simulation to reality.