The mods there have decided to allow underage looking content, skirting close to CP. Unless we want such disgusting stuff on our feed, I think we should defederate from that instance.

Pinging @ernest as well.

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    Access to content should not be difficulted by puritan views. If people enjoy gore and create an instance about gore in movies showing very explicit (yet fictional) images of dismemberments and stuff in movies it should be banned too because is morally questionable?

    If you can’t distinguish between fiction and reality it should be a you problem not the whole instance you are inhabiting problem

    What do you think about this? (sorry the article is in Spanish, but there is no English article)

    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ni%C3%B1os_en_la_playa

    It’s a painting exposed in an important museum

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      If you want legally questionable material, gore, or other shit, you’re free to spin up your own instance. Your access to it is not being fettered.

      You’re just not entitled to access it using someone else’s website.

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        Paedos should be castrated and thrown into the deepest hole and never leave, as they hurt children. Nobody is defending those people, but drawings are not children, nobody is harmed. That’s an important difference

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            This is your argument:

            We should ban violent videogames . Everybody know people who play violent videogames are violent. Peolpe claiming “It’S jUsT a GaMe” are protecting violent people

            P.S. I hope you don’t like shaved vaginas, btw, people who like shaved genitals are just ill people people who want to see kid-like genitals without any hair i.e. paedos

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                  Nah mate, people liking violent video games does not make them violent. People seeking sexual gratification from underage looking cartoons are definitely paedos, and you’re a fucking moron at best if you can’t see that. Probably just trying to defend your own proclivities though lmao.

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                    people liking violent video games does not make them violent. People seeking sexual gratification from underage looking cartoons are definitely paedos

                    why? where’s the difference?

                    violent videogames are fiction
                    cartoons are fiction

                    Just because you enjoy killing hookers in GTA does not mean you are going to start killing hookers in real life as a hobby
                    Just because you like a cartoon does not means you enjoy its real-life equivalent

                    it’s the same situation, saying one thing is ok and the other is wrong is being an hypocrite.

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      You know what you can do if you want to see that content? Subscribe to that instance or an instance that is federated with it. Easy

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      I have no idea about the context of that painting, but I don’t think the children are being sexualised in it. The under-age content that will be posted on lemmynsfw (fictional or not) will definitely be sexual in nature, and that is deeply problematic and might also be illegal in several countries. They can do whatever they want with their instance, but the users of kbin.social shouldn’t have to be looking at such content.

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        but the users of kbin.social shouldn’t have to be looking at such content.

        Idk, as kbin.social user I was not looking to such content until you mentioned it. And since I don’t follow that instance I will not be looking to such content in the future

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          You do “follow” that instance because you are part of kbin.social which is federated with it. You could go in and block each of the magazines/threads from there or whatever the term is on Lemmy, and block the users you don’t want to see content from, but kbin.social is federated with lemmynsfw, so that content has the ability to show up in your “all” or “random” feeds unless we defederate -which is the question being asked. So you very well could really l easily have that content in your feed in the best future

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        lemmynsfw said they don’t allow underage content though. so that’s unrelated to their ruling. their ruling applies to adult content, not underage.

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          The linked post is saying they will allow non-irl underage-looking content.

          That is illegal in Canada.

          163.1 (1) In this section, child pornography means

          (a) a photographic, film, video or other visual representation, whether or not it was made by electronic or mechanical means,

          (i) that shows a person who is or is depicted as being under the age of eighteen years and is engaged in or is depicted as engaged in explicit sexual activity

          https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-163.1.html

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              I’d encourage you to read what I just posted because drawings would fall under “other visual representations”

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                  OK, more concretely then, sexualised drawings of people who are or appear to be under 18 are illegal in the UK.

                  This is an odd hill to die on if you’re not interested in looking at sexualised drawings of people who are or appear to be under 18.

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                    I could say all humans look under 18 to me, and thus all porn is banned.

                    ultimately, loli does not refer to actual human beings. it does not refer to an age. loli characters can be undeniably adults and appear as such.

                    Surely, if a character is canonically an adult, appears as an adult, is unmistakably an adult, and are not based on a real person, then they can’t possibly fall under what you are saying, yes?