• ???@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Are you asking if it’s doable to have self determination and not kill anyone?

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      1 year ago

      Well kinda, I asked if they are not allowed to do that in a way that won’t turn into violence .
      You know self determination is very general term. I could self determine at the expense of you or I could do it in neutral or even beneficial way to you. But I’m merely asking if they are not allowed.

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        1 year ago

        Since we’re talking avour Israel, I mean the same one they say they have.

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          1 year ago

          Do you mean shelling neighbors or democracy ? And again aren’t Palestinians allowed self determination without violence ? To me you seem to have reason to think they aren’t. I’m just trying to figure out what is the reason.

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            1 year ago

            To me you seem to have reason to think they aren’t

            I think you are totally misreading the situation here. /: Maybe some background info you seem to have missing about this entire issue?

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              1 year ago

              Not sure. I’m just asking plain simple question, that is: "Aren’t Palestinians allowed self determination without violence ? "

              Maybe (American Heritage) definition of self determination could help ?

              • Determination of one’s own fate or course of action without compulsion; free will.
              • Freedom of the people of a given area to determine their own political status; independence.
              • Determination by one’s self or itself; determination by one’s own will or powers, without extraneous impulse or influence.
              • Determination by one’s self; or, determination of one’s acts or states without the necessitating force of motives; – applied to the voluntary or activity.
              • The ability or right to make one’s own decisions without interference from others.
              • The political independence of a people.
              • Determination of one’s own fate or course of action without compulsion.
              • Government of a political unit by its own people.

              source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.

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                1 year ago

                I’m asking because I’m Palestinian. No one talked about violence at all.

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                  1 year ago

                  Seems like you are avoiding the answer, so i won’t pursue any further.

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                    1 year ago

                    I think you completely missed the point of it and maybe there was a misunderstanding because the things you were asking and commenting on weren’t making sense and seemed like you were pulling my leg to say some bullshit (maybe you assumed I was pro-Israeli? Or maybe pro-Palestinian?) maybe you missed the whole Israeli self determination thing in history? Idk.

                    I’m not trying to run away from anything. Your question doesn’t make sense or is awkwardly phrased.

                    You can ask again as long as it makes a bit of sense lmfao