• Chetzemoka@startrek.website
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    Do what? Just saying “we’ll have farming and transport” is not a plan.

    I’m not saying there isn’t any other way to accomplish food production and distribution. I’m saying that just overthrowing our current systems without an explicit plan to keep food on the shelves is going to result in regular working class people starving. That has happened in every revolution except the American, and that’s because the American revolutionaries already had the Continental Congress in place making plans about how to administrate the country, if they managed to win the war.

    But most revolutions were just pure chaos with no plan that resulted in regular people starving to death. I 100% agree we need new systems. But I’m not terribly interested in living through a violent revolution.

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      Is the people’s assembly in session right now? No? Then save the details for when it matters. These decisions are made by people on the ground in response to material conditions.

      I’m not in charge, so don’t burden me with the responsibility of making the decisions all by myself.

      But, simply put, make food according to estimations of what’s needed, decided at regular meetings. Decide amongst assemblies from population centers which towns need how much.

      Does that make the picture clearer?

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        And I’m just saying be careful of who and what you support and make sure they’re planning to have these things covered.

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          There is no one promising this, and I wouldn’t trust anyone saying they did. I would only trust a movement that started from the people.

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            Then the people have to be organized enough to keep the food going! It’s not magic, the world doesn’t just run without any planning or direction.

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              Of course they have to be organised. Who expects things to be done with no effort?

              I’m just explaining that there isn’t some politician or pundit who said this to me verbatim for me to nod along like a thoughtless chicken. I heard bits and pieces here, read others there, and over years formed an opinion through research and conversations. This isn’t a campaign promise of some party asking for votes.