The world has experienced its hottest day on record, according to meteorologists.

The average global temperature reached 17.01C (62.62F) on Monday, according to the US National Centres for Environmental Prediction.

The figure surpasses the previous record of 16.92C (62.46F) - set back in August 2016.

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    Every person living in a democracy can make a difference with their VOTE. Only vote for people who have plans and intentions of bringing change. Vote at all levels, and vote whenever you get an opportunity. Ask what candidates in municipal elections think about the climate emergency. Organize. Talk to doubters. We can do this.

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      If voting worked, we would have solved this issue decades ago. You can vote for whomever you want, but at the end, no matter what they promise, they always end up doing nothing at all, because they are elected by using big oil donations.

      Only a self-organized revolution can stop this madness, people in some nations are already blocking oil tankers and oil rigs. We can’t win by only voting, you can vote for a day every few years, but we need to fight this everyday. Take turns blocking streets so no oil driven trucks and cars pass, only this will make an effect.

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          I mean nonviolent protests DO work.

          Non-disruptive DOES NOT work though.

          MLK Jr didn’t peacefully sit in a park. They ran boycotts, sit ins, shut down streets, trespassed into white only areas, and drove businesses insane.

          If MLK Jr was your enemy you were going to have a miserable time when he rolled into town.

          Ghandi had people illegally burn documents and basically smuggled salt against all regulations.

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            MLK had the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam as looming threats. Gandhi is also the one who said “pacifism without violence is not pacifism, it is helplessness.” A violent counterpart to a non-violent movement helps by being the stick to the non-violent carrot.

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              That’s fair, but either way we gotta give up on this nondisruptive nonsense.

              Gathering on the park outside of the white house at a time they agreed to doesn’t do anything and why it’s encouraged.

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              See US Constitution, Amendment 2 for another example of backing peace with capability of violence to earn respect.

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                  Especially since those guys are pretty much all lard-asses. There’s a reason why every competent military on the planet emphasizes physical fitness before anything else; it’s because real combat --as opposed to playing paintball with your fatbody friends-- is one of the most physically and psychologically punishing activities known to man.

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                    Indeed. As 101st infantry alumni, I’m well aware. Having been on both sides, military combat arms and a civilian gun owner, I find the ‘defense against the government’ idea around the 2nd amendment to be laughable. If they thought you were an actual threat they’d drone strike you out of existence, and you’d be a bullet point on an after action report. They own us now and they know it, that’s why everything is going to shit, and it’s why we were warned about the rise of the IMC. If only my younger self had been educated about that, I may not have joined up. Hmmm maybe there’s a link there?!?! I wonder.

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                    That’s funny I thought catching a bullet was one of the most physically punishing activities known to man.

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                  Nor am I quaking in my boots when someone is armed in the same room as me. But I’m not gonna fuck with that person.

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            You are aware that besides Gandhi there was a lot of violent protest?

            Only violent protest makes the demands of the nonviolent acceptable to the ruling class. Without a violent part of a movement, the demands of the nonviolent are always ignored. Which is perfectly logical, because why accept the demands of someone you can ignore without consequences.

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              Thanks for those insights even if they’re not really relevant to what was being discussed

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            Violence is a sometimes (even often) unavoidable byproduct of revolution, not an essential characteristic. Don’t confuse the two.

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            You know, now that a good portion of people are on Lemmy, it just might be the perfect place to start organizing, whatever you feel that may be…

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              Okay, when a government has completely collapsed, after the total collapse of the larger global leading entity; a peaceful revolution that results in something completely new, should be the top option.

              But I don’t think we have that much time

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                  In my personal (very, very amateur) opinion; less than 10 years, where things keep running as “normal”

                  Humanity is awesome at adapting so I think it’ll be a very long time before things become impossible to deal with, but there is going to be a lot of transition and disruption over the next 20+ years

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                    Sounds like history as usual then.

                    The thing I’m most worried about would be nuclear weapons, but I’m pretty sure the aliens are preventing that from happening.

                    Personally I’m most worried about starting a family.

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            And how the heck do we know that it have any reasonable chance of working out well and that it won’t be brutally suppressed or co-opted by reactionaries? And how would anyone even organize such a thing? ~Strawberry

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              We don’t have any idea if it will work out or if it’ll be snuffed out.

              However, the lack of purposeful revolution will result in an aimless one, carried on not with thought and intent, but instead as a reaction to the immseration of the world’s people as we bake in and are flooded from our homes and cities.

              The only option is to try as the current hegemony will not solve the problems we face for the problems are a direct result of their desired politics in action.

              As for organizing one, that’s way too long of a conversation to occur here.

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                So we have no idea if it’s even remotely a good idea or if it’s likely to leave us in a similar position to before or worse, or how to do it? Great plan. ~Strawberry

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        Both. We need both. Voting matters. Grassroots organization matters. Now is absolutely not the time to give up on democracy. It is also absolutely not the time to give up on mass organizing at the grassroots. Both, we need both.

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          Now is absolutely not the time to give up on democracy.

          No one wants to give up democracy, we just recognize that liberal bourgeois democracy only serves to create an illusion of democratic voice. The only interests taken into account in the so-called modern “democracies” are those of capital, and that is no democracy at all.> Now is absolutely not the time to give up on democracy.

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          We need direct democracy. What we live in is no democracy at all, they choose for us and then we just pick the worst of two evils.

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        How the heck do you organize that as quickly and at as large of a scale as is needed for it to have a good chance of working out? ~Strawberry

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          I don’t mean to be a doomer but we can’t. We’re passed the point of no return. The best we can do is organize so that we can reduce the amount of death from here on out.

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            I mean working out as in making sure it doesn’t get a significant degree worse than it already is? I know we’ve already passed the point where we can avoid any damage. ~Strawberry

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              I think it would require some extreme changes to the oil, industry amongst other things. We’d also have to be vigilant that those changes don’t disproportionately affect the global south.

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                  I don’t know everything we need to do, and/or by what means. I would like to think it can be all done peacefully but we have seen how oil executives will fight tooth and nail to keep their quarterly profit report line going up; so that may not be a viable way. We could all practice consuming less and reevaluating our lifestyles. Putting more thought into whether we really need to consume as much as we do is a good example.

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          By starting early enough and being persistent. It will take time, but we had this issues for decades and we will have it for decades more. Best time to start a revolution is yesterday, second best is today.

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      Honestly voting now is to little too late. The Overton window isn’t anywhere near the point of allowing actually meaningful change and the 4-5 year cycle of voting is too slow. If we really want to solve anything, the change should be systemic. Still, voting is important.

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            Dude the lockdowns started WW3. This narrative that only the rich people benefit from the economy is nonsense.

            WFH is available to those who work at desks. Thinking that’s the whole economy is blind.

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              So many logical jumps here.

              “WW3” ? wtf…

              “narrative” that wasn’t mentioned.

              The “whole economy” that also was not mentioned.

              Try responding to the comment as written, not the voices in your head and it might appear more coherent to others.

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                • WW3: Russia has invaded Ukraine. Multiple countries are providing arms to the two sides.
                • narrative: The comment before mine contained that narrative. If you can’t see it there I can’t help you see it.
                • whole economy: what the poster referred to as “working from home” was actually “lockdown”. It was lockdown that cleared the pollution from the air. For some people it was working from home; for others it was being forcibly removed from their job
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                  Your echo chamber is showing in how much you read into things. Wow.

                  Life Pro Tip for ya: Try engaging with the words on the screen as written not the voices in your head and your feed.

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                    Here is how I interpreted those comments:

                    We need some harsh mandates. Look at what Work From Home did for wildlife and emmisions in a short amount of time.

                    "During the height of the pandemic, the air got substantially better as a result of people not traveling (lockdowns)”

                    We need that style of change. Big, bold, and life altering.

                    “We need to be willing to disrupt people’s lives like we did during pandemic response (lockdowns)”

                    But what about the feelings of rich people? They might not like that!

                    “Those disruptions’ negative effects would be felt by rich people, but I don’t care about their narrow needs compared to the needs of all humanity”

                    If you disagree with my interpretation, what is your interpretation (in your own words) of what was being said?

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        Of course voting alone won’t do it. We need a lot more. Holding billionaires to account will go a long way as well.

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      I think its a statistical loss if we rely on denocracy. The stupid far outnumber the rational.

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        And the greedy outnumber us both. As long as these companies are lining politicians pockets, they will only act like they’re trying.

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            I think you guys are onto something here! Democracy is not going to work because everyone outside your circle is either evil or stupid. And given you’re saving all of humanity from the thermoapocapypse, it is your mission to destroy democracy and seize control of power! (for the greater good of course not because you’re stupid and evil, because everyone else is stupid and evil and you’re doing it for their own good).

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        Relying on democracy without participating in democracy is the only way to fail democracy.

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            You may be overestimating the degree to which judging people who disagree with you as stupid grants you license to disenfranchise them.

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      Sadly no, show me a political party that the us, china or India could realistically vote for that would substantially reduce emissions in the next 10 years

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      Unfortunately, voting doesn’t help. Besides there being basically no parties with any real strong climate policies, when you vote a decent sounding one in, they just go back on their promises anyway.

      And even IF we vote in a party that truly brings about radical and positive climate change policies, that’s just our one country, a drop in the ocean. The rest of the planet would still drag us down with them, even in that wildly positive scenario.

      I don’t mean to be a doomsayer, I just don’t see a way out, I wish I did. Voting certainly doesn’t solve our problems, climate change or otherwise. The rich ruling class will do whatever they want, regardless.

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      Absolute rubbish. People believing that their vote will bring change ensures climate disaster. The system is rigged and if you agree to participate in the system you are part of the problem. Thinking voting can have any meaningful impact highlights that you are unaware of how serious the situation is.

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        Just want to join your downvotes by backing you up and saying you are right. Belief in the system and that voting is the answer is downright absurd at this point.