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I’m sure that you can hardly do worse than Trump, but still. Here’s the famous associated meme :

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    I respect your opinion on this, but i don’t agree. For one thing i think calling Glenn Greenwald a fascist is a stretch. Libertarian yes, right wing on some issues for sure, but fascist, no. The same goes for the likes of Jimmy Dore: i don’t much like any of these people and i don’t think they are in any way our “allies”, but that doesn’t mean we should reflexively reject everything they say even when it’s true. All that does is cede ground to the right wing because it allows them to position themselves as the ones who dare point out the truth about liberals and their hypocrisy which is clear for all to see.

    I also don’t agree with policing whether or not it’s ok to agree with what someone says based on whether or not that helps or hinders Trump getting elected. I think this obsession with Trump and with the results of US elections is misguided and counterproductive. I consider the tendency of the CPUSA to want to help democrats get elected (just so that republicans aren’t) to be wrong and opportunist. I have been around long enough to see that in practice it really doesn’t make much if any difference at all who gets elected. The rich still steal from the poor, the police still murder migrants and minorities, the empire continues to wage wars abroad.

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      that doesn’t mean we should reflexively reject everything they say even when it’s true

      I’ll have to agree with this — if someone is parroting leftist points for bad reasons, we should point that out, but that doesn’t make the leftist points themselves illegitimate.

      We should take care to avoid reductio ad Hitlerum — Hitler abstaining from eating meat doesn’t mean veganism is a Nazi take