You know something sad and at the same time funny? I saw the same script as this liberal but with a spanish Maoist. The difference between the Spanish maoist and this Belgian reactionary was that they were whitewashing different empires.
The Maoist was whitewashing the genocidal spanish empire and comparing China’s development of Latin America with the defunct empire. Crazy to see that same script but with a different empire. They will ignore ANY piece of positive evidence just to justify their hatred and their thirst for destruction against China.
I was surprised as you are now with my comment when the ultra threw that one at me. As other comrades have mentioned, the western excepcionalism is probably something very common with western marxists.
I hope you never come across this type of people. In the beginning, I was shocked at reading such nonsense from a person from Spain. As a latin american, I felt very angry and confused at how to respond.
The thing about exceptionalism is that it’s so deeply engrained that even if you adopt good politics, the exceptionalism will end up reasserting itself through the lens of those politics unless you are eternally vigilant. It’s rife on the Western left when you know to look for it.
that it’s so deeply engrained that even if you adopt good politics, the exceptionalism will end up reasserting itself
This is absolutely right, I see a lot of Americans communists who mention how people “flee Cuba to America”, these people have some residue to US chauvinism because unfortunately they are literally trying to deprogram themselves, it’s a political equivalent to asking a child to raise itself.
They need to continue reading theory, they need time and to be called out when they do fuck shit, it’s your choice on how much empathy you bring with the call-out, but imo being kind helps… contrary to some peoples beliefs (cough cough, Khmer Rouge, cough cough), comrades are friends
My point is though that even if you read theory, the chauvinism will still be there, mutating into new forms, trying to slip past your newly acquired immune system. If anything, sometimes the theoretical grounding can give people a false sense of confidence. I think really the key is to have a bit of humility — which is easier said than done lol
I feel like people end up internalizing these patterns on reddit where these trolls are the majority. And it works on those forms because they can all just gang up on anybody who disagrees with them. They’ve never had to actually make a coherent argument before.
You know something sad and at the same time funny? I saw the same script as this liberal but with a spanish Maoist. The difference between the Spanish maoist and this Belgian reactionary was that they were whitewashing different empires.
The Maoist was whitewashing the genocidal spanish empire and comparing China’s development of Latin America with the defunct empire. Crazy to see that same script but with a different empire. They will ignore ANY piece of positive evidence just to justify their hatred and their thirst for destruction against China.
How in the world do you call yourself a Maoist and support the Spanish empire…? That’s almost as bad as those “MAGA communists”
I was surprised as you are now with my comment when the ultra threw that one at me. As other comrades have mentioned, the western excepcionalism is probably something very common with western marxists.
I hope you never come across this type of people. In the beginning, I was shocked at reading such nonsense from a person from Spain. As a latin american, I felt very angry and confused at how to respond.
The thing about exceptionalism is that it’s so deeply engrained that even if you adopt good politics, the exceptionalism will end up reasserting itself through the lens of those politics unless you are eternally vigilant. It’s rife on the Western left when you know to look for it.
This is absolutely right, I see a lot of Americans communists who mention how people “flee Cuba to America”, these people have some residue to US chauvinism because unfortunately they are literally trying to deprogram themselves, it’s a political equivalent to asking a child to raise itself.
They need to continue reading theory, they need time and to be called out when they do fuck shit, it’s your choice on how much empathy you bring with the call-out, but imo being kind helps… contrary to some peoples beliefs (cough cough, Khmer Rouge, cough cough), comrades are friends
My point is though that even if you read theory, the chauvinism will still be there, mutating into new forms, trying to slip past your newly acquired immune system. If anything, sometimes the theoretical grounding can give people a false sense of confidence. I think really the key is to have a bit of humility — which is easier said than done lol
Well its a good thing communists call out bullshit xD
I mean I can see that to some extent but the idea of a Maoist supporting Spanish empire is so ludicrous to be laughable
No more ludicrous than western maoists suddenly turning into libertarians during the pandemic 🤷
I’m glad that in my life I’ve been able to avoid Maoists enough to not know what you are referring to….
I feel like people end up internalizing these patterns on reddit where these trolls are the majority. And it works on those forms because they can all just gang up on anybody who disagrees with them. They’ve never had to actually make a coherent argument before.