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    China heavily controls their population. Just what it is.

    Is it bad? Singapore do it, and west let them

    Girl at work tried to use DeepSeek so I showed her some questions and then asked the same questions on le chat mistral.

    A little bit of a different answer 😁

    Are you talking about Tiananmen Square?

    Chinese companies own 80% of cobalt in Congo. They use this to dominate the battery market

    Source?

    They subsidise EV and phone companies. So that I get those items on the back of Chinese tax payers.

    If they are fine then that is fine

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      I showed tank man, just literally no answer. But she asked about how Turkish Uyghurs were treated (she’s Turkish diaspora). Then it showed some very different answer than le chat mistral.

      Basically the answer on DeepSeek is something you guys here would copy paste lol

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        I showed tank man, just literally no answer. But she asked about how Turkish Uyghurs were treated (she’s Turkish diaspora). Then it showed some very different answer than le chat mistral.

        Okay. And what do you want the Chinese people to do?

        Basically the answer on DeepSeek is something you guys here would copy paste lol

        You’re laughing at the wrong person. I’m not a socialist

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      https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/SSI-Media/Recent-Publications/Article/3938204/china-in-the-democratic-republic-of-the-congo-a-new-dynamic-in-critical-mineral/#%3A~%3Atext=The+DRC+produces+80+percent%2Cpercent+of+the+total+output.

      https://source.benchmarkminerals.com/article/how-much-cobalt-production-is-owned-by-chinese-companies

      https://theconversation.com/drc-is-the-worlds-largest-producer-of-cobalt-how-control-by-local-elites-can-shape-the-global-battery-industry-236205

      https://www.visualcapitalist.com/chinas-cobalt-supply-dominance-by-2030/

      Okay I misread about the 80% figure. It’s more about 50%. They just control 80% of the output through majority stakes.

      But Chinese companies are going after all the cobalt in the world. It’s their industry that they want to shine in.

      “Singapore does it”, my boss worked there and told me this week multiple times that Singaporeans are the most selfish ego centered people he has ever met. My wife grew up in Bintan, and she agrees. They are basically the Americans of south east Asia.

      The subsidies are trickle down economics, heavily criticised by socialists.

      Although income inequality is dropping in china. 0,35 Gini. In USA it’s 0,41. But here in the EU, it’s 0,29.

      And where I live, it’s 0,26.

      We’re still the most socialist.

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        Okay I misread about the 80% figure. It’s more about 50%.

        Be careful next time

        It’s their industry that they want to shine in.

        That is normal. USA does it too, don’t you think?

        “Singapore does it”, my boss worked there and told me this week multiple times that Singaporeans are the most selfish ego centered people he has ever met. My wife grew up in Bintan, and she agrees. They are basically the Americans of south east Asia.

        Why are you talking about your boss and your wife? We’re talking about Singapore which also heavily control their population

        The subsidies are trickle down economics, heavily criticised by socialists.

        Source?

        Although income inequality is dropping in china. 0,35 Gini. In USA it’s 0,41. But here in the EU, it’s 0,29.

        We’re still the most socialist.

        Socialism is more than income

        And thanks for links

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            And you’re allowed to do it because we allow opposition. That’s democracy.

            It’s absolutely crazy how brainwashed westerners are to believe that Democracy is when the people can’t control policy, but they’re allowed to impotently post criticism of it online.

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            When I say that china is just another capitalist nation, then your whataboutism to other capitalist nations does not defend china

            It proves my point.

            I am not interested in defending China. I want you to know that West is not holy

            China heavily guides public opinion, there’s no opposition allowed.

            It is good then. Many oppositions only care about themselves

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              So the opposition, ml instance, only cares about themselves and thus should be heavily censored?

              I thought we were here on Lemmy so that we could choose what content we see and which content we want to upload.

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                I said “many oppositions only care about themselves” not “all oppositions only care about themselves”

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                    Yes, it’s convenient. I don’t have to worry about ethno-nationalists, and chauvinists

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        Socialism is not “lower Gini coefficient.” Socialism is a Mode of Production chategorized by public ownership being the principle aspect of the economy, unike Capitalism where the reverse is true. Large firms and key industries are firmly publicly owned in China, while the private sector covers small industry and self-proprietors. Key industries, like steel and banking, are near entirely state owned. In Belgium, this is not the case, in fact it’s quite the opposite.

        This is why China is developing and improving key metrics at a much faster rate than dying western Capitalist countries. Adopting a Marxist understanding of economics allows better analysis of how to improve economies and use that for the benefit of all.