It was a got damn stunt, offc
This is more like, yet another PR flattery stunt, that Trump enjoyed in his first term too. Unclear that it means Tik Tok is going to help him get a 3rd term, or censor criticism of him.
The fix is in, and TikTok is now just another implement in Trump and Elon’s disinformation machine. Crazy times, our country is literally being run by the top social media platforms.
Yes, before this it was run by regular media platforms.
Social media is way more efficient though. Like, almost incomparable.
Key word being “literally”
Did you do your part to vote against Trump?
The AP is supposed to be a neutral source, but they are decidedly right leaning.
There is clear, relevant reporting to be done on how odd the structure of all this is and that the app’s self imposed shutdown message specifically praised trump, by name. They buried a photo of it, but I don’t see direct text in the article discussing that. They also don’t mention the fact that the CEO had been privately meeting with trump recently.
They say Biden had a part in the ban, though he said publicly he would not enforce it - what matters there, that AP doesn’t mention, is that the republicans held humanitarian aide to Ukraine hostage back in April, saying they’d block unless the tick tok ban was passed. Laying the groundwork for this hollow attempt to “blame Biden” and position trump as a solution (to a problem he instigated and that republican think tanks engineered).
They do say the CEO will attend and have a “prime seating location” but not clarifying that the seats he’ll be in are typically reserved for living past US presidents.
Fucking joke.
They say Biden had a part in the ban, though he said publicly he would not enforce it - what matters there, that AP doesn’t mention, is that the republicans hello humanitarian aide to Ukraine hostage back in April, saying they’d block unless the rock you ban was passed. Laying the groundwork for this hollow attempt to “blame Biden” and position trunk as a solution (to a problem he instigated and that republican think tanks engineered).
You’re making an important point here, but it’s somewhat undermined by the fact that your rogue auto[in]correct needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot.
Ha, wonderful! Corrected, thanks for pointing that out.
Note: I had to manually correct the auto"correct" for just about every word on that small sentence above (and in this note)
Spreading for awareness, I’ve been posting this in relevant threads for a week - This is all theater.
trump was always going to “save” tik tok after starting the initial push to ban it (for the wrong reasons) to pretend he did something for you. Worst part is that all of the no/low info voters and non voters will eat it up.
It’s the equivalent of a person pushing you into the middle of the street and at the very last second, that same person tells the drivers to all stop. “Wow, I owe you my life!”
And now, this adds two layers:
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You think trump and the Supreme Court are colluding? now they get to say, nah uh!!! Even though again, this is all convoluted.
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trump gets to look “stronger” than the “highest court in the land” to help delude the next generation of low info tiktok folks.
P.s. The Chinese “protest” apps that were downloaded are going to mine the FUCK out of these millions of phones in the brief window they have them. Also, when the kids inevitably move back to tiktok, majority of them will still leave these other apps installed on their phones, dormant and collecting indefinitely in the background.
Personally I would’ve gone with a Protection Racket metaphor.
People like you really don’t get it. You can’t wrap your head around people not caring about their data.
There are people DYING because they don’t have access to affordable healthcare. There are families forced to live in section 8 housing because they can’t afford to feed their family and have a place to live at the same time. Our children are DYING in school while the police sit outside and watch. WE DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT OUR DATA.
This whole debacle should infuriate every single American. 85% of congress voted to disenfranchise 150 MILLION Americans. These assholes can’t agree on anything but they can agree on this. It’s a travesty that our elected officials can spoon feed you some bullshit about China and you forget how they don’t care about you.
You don’t realize how your data not being secure contributes to all of the problems you list.
I imagine the issue is that you think “your data” means that list of your “5 favorite types of hats” you posted yesterday or that mp3 of dogs barking happy birthday on your phone - yes, that is data, but it’s not really what we’re talking about here. Your data collectively, in a profile that is bought and sold, is like your DNA - it is the blueprint to exactly who you are, where/why you are weak and when/how to manipulate you.
I appreciate your passion, but your blind rage here is misplaced and frankly, your position is severely ignorant of the reality you’re currently operating in, in several key areas. You also seem to have wholly constructed an adversarial relationship here where you try to frame me as in support of our Congress, I am not. I don’t agree with how this bill was assembled, lobbied or passed in Congress. I do understand some of the nuance though, so I consider that. As I’ve said, after trump introduced a tiktok ban as a pure racist distraction without any actual substance, republican think tanks took the ball and engineered this situation as a trap, so they could attack either outcome from democrats (because they are feckless, grifting cowards). Key tactic within that strategy ,was when Republicans held Ukraine aide hostage on the condition that they wouldn’t approve spend unless the tiktok bill was alleged as well. So Congress reluctantly passed it, and Biden signed it and then he made an official statement that he or his administration would not enforce it (essentially saying, we were forced into this bullshit). So at that point, you’re talking about innocent human lives under an active terrorist attack from Russia in the balance.
Again, there’s a lot here you don’t understand it seems. I welcome you to breathe a bit, slow down and have a discussion. Happy to chat if you need.
Sorry to be a pedant about little things, but while you’re fixing typos, it’s “aid” not “aide”. I just mention it because it really changes the sense of “holding aid hostage.”
I’m not saying everything you’re saying here is correct but, this is exactly how a lot of people I know feel. What the replies to your comments aren’t understanding is that emotions are often stronger than facts. The average American has no idea how things work but they do know how they feel about them not working. That’s the reason they all have no problem handing over all their data.
And people like you don’t get that the worsening of all those problems will only accelerate under Trump’s corrupt plutocracy.
You know many of us agreed to give our data to China rather than messenger or else wise?
What point are you trying to make, and in response to what?
Also what do you think? The PS, China was mentioned and I mentioned China?
Simple. We choose to give our data to another country instead of companies that sell our data without us knowing. Also in Little red book. You see it tells the users to be cautious where they share their facial data and that it’s not needed to use the app?
You’re not making a lot of sense… It also seems that you’re under the impression that tiktok doesn’t sell data and ad profiles like all other social media networks?
Also tell me what’s not already online somewhere??? Location, Phone Number, Favourite things all already shared because we agreed! Also honestly I doubt any negative would happen with any data unless someone was against the Chinese government, was extremely rude to the natives of the app or else wise. Which to me seems incredibly fair.
Can I ask why are you going after little red book compared to other companies. Like while yes they may mine phone numbers but many many other platforms do it. Though Little Red Book encourages people not to share facial recognition data and you don’t need to, to use their app. They aren’t perfect and no app is but I feel much more inclined to use their app when there’s even a slight warning about sharing certain data compared to others that don’t care.
No trust me I know TikTok did and how am I not making sense. It’s simple. We choose to go to a literal Chinese app due to our governments decision? How can I make that anymore clear? We chose to give our data to another country? You seem to be hard of reading or thinking there’s some meaning in my text that there’s not, what are you assuming?
I think it’s a valid point that the concern being raised about tik tok is just as valid with other apps, both from Facebook or Twitter etc and from overseas apps. People are happily giving up their data and don’t see a distinction in how it is being used for disinformation by different state actors. It’s all misinformation.
People are apathetic to the risk, but also don’t see the risk for foreign government snooping as significantly higher than internal snooping.
Many people also don’t consider the willingness and commitment to giving China data now. I mean if Facebook, Twitter and else wise. Is scanning our wifi to see what is connected to it and what we have access to. Why not go ahead and give our data to a country they’ll sell the data to.
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Trump isn’t even become president yet, and already they’re giving him praises.
Republicans are always president and can do things like negotiate the release of hostages. They just let democrats pretend sometimes.
In fairness even the Democrats are Republicans these days.
Glares at Fetterman
Note that the law does not prohibit TikTok from operating. It prohibits companies like Google and Apple from distributing it, and according to this article, they are in fact not distributing it.
Even as TikTok was flickering back on, it remained unavailable for download in Apple and Google’s app stores.
TikTok shut off voluntarily and that appears to have been an excellent PR move, but we won’t know for certain until Trump does or doesn’t do something about it in the next few days.
It was a publicity stunt. That’s manipulative as fuck. You can add them to the list of businesses in Trump’s pocket.
TikTok may trust Trump but Apple and Google are much better off acting like the law is in force and could be used against them.
TikTok also was and still is acting like the law is in force - the law does not require it to shut off. They aren’t taking any legal risk.
Sec. 2) This division prohibits distributing, maintaining, updating, or providing internet hosting services for a foreign adversary controlled application (e.g., TikTok).
The “providing internet hosting services” seems like it could be an issue there
Call me crazy but this feels all like a plan to push the Maga movement, first the “bad democrats” take away the “lovely” tiktok, then “good” trump brings back the beloved “noncensorship” tiktok because he “loves” freedom of speech or smth.
But trump is the one who started the movement to ban it when he was president the first time!
No one will remember that since it happened prior to last week.
STOP BEING RIGHT!!!
Hi my name is Fred the goldfish
HEY IT’S FRED!!!
Remember that? Remember Fred? Ah, of coarse not. You have the memory of a goldfish…
Wasn’t there a game called freddy fish as a child hood education game?
It’s where I learnt what a sea Eneneme was.
Yeah this.
I don’t really think that’s the case. I mean, the democrats are idiots, sure, but why would they take part in the scheme when they know Trumps followers wanna line them up against the wall?
I don’t know why the Dems keep shooting themselves in the foot to further Republican goals but they seem to be pretty good at it.
Because the Democrat politicians hold all the same stocks as the Republicans
I bet the new algorithm will be pushing push far right content to everyone just like Twitter and Meta, this was a stunt to silence the leftists.
Gaza ceasefire and reversed TikTok ban. He’s basically won over younger voters before he’s even started.
It’s as if plutocrats worldwide are teeing up fake wins to help Trump solidify his power because they see an opportunity to kill off liberalism once and for all.
There’s no way GenZ can possibly be this stupid, right?
A lot voted trump, so yes?
Iceberg of stupidity. And it’s not just genZ. It’s Americans in general.
Lol
That’s totally not fishy at all
The only way his ban evasion will work is if they find a buyer in 90 days
Or Trump keeps extending it or the newly formed Congress rolls back the law or the corrupt Supreme Court changes its mind or or or.
They entire US government is a game of oligarchic Calvinball.
Tomorrow Trump becomes the commander in cheif of the executive branch, the branch explicitly in charge of enforcing the law. The concept of salutary neglect is not new to America, and I don’t think much could stop him if he decided to simply not enforce the law as written. As you point out, it would not be the first time the country played by it’s own rules made up on the spot.
Uhhh, Trump is literally the executive.
He just commands the FCC or other authorities to ignore TikTok. He can extend this ban evasion for all 4 years if he wants.
Congress and Supreme Court do not control the executive powers. The President does.
Does the FCC have the discretion to do that after Chevron, I wonder?
Doesn’t matter; SCOTUS is controlled by “unitary executive theory” nutjobs now. The FCC can do whatever Trump wants it to do; no more, no less.
As long as he can make money off of tiktok (either through videos or bribes) he’ll keep extending it.
The decomcrats are fucking morons for allowing Trump to take credit for this. This was the obvious outcome and was easily preventable.
I dunno if app stores are gonna bring it back though.
The law stipulates like, ridiculously massive (seriously like $5k PER USER) fines for hosting it. I dunno if a legally-dubious pinky promise from Trump will be enough for them.
That’s only really a problem for iOS users though. For Android users, you can just load the APK onto the phone and go.
This story has lots more to run. Trump is giving them a 90 day reprieve but hes going to try and extract something from them.
I suspect he will still try and get them to sell to one of his cronies. And bytedance won’t do that.
