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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/23478086

Common Dreams Staff Dec 10, 2024

[contains transcript (corroborated by NBC) published by Ken Klippenstein]

  • Rakonat@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    7 hours ago

    While I believe Klipperstein has a copy of something, we’ve as of yet have no evidence that Mangione wrote it.

    Hence the ‘Trust me bro’ part. Hand written manifesto saying everything the police want to hear to speedrun the trial from a guy who works in the tech business who would have posted it online if he actually wanted to get caught. Far too many pieces of evidence seemed to have fallen into the lap of the police after literal days of not even being sure if he was still in NYC or not.

    If he was the shooter, which I won’t rule out at this phase, and didn’t want to get caught, why would he keep the gun, manifesto and fake IDs on his person, especially when just going out to lunch? If he did want to get caught… why would he leave NYC? He could have turned himself in any police station or tried to start a rally till someone with cuffs took him into custody. Why would he abandon the bag in Central Park and not leave the manifesto there?

    • kandoh@reddthat.com
      1·
      3 hours ago

      Unless this was forged by the NYPD to frame random hot guy from a very wealthy and connected conservative family who happened to have chronic back pain and a huge social media footprint - this is verified to be the real manifesto.

      • djsoren19@yiffit.net
        2·
        35 minutes ago

        Yeah the problem is that I do not trust NYPD enough to believe they wouldn’t frame someone, or even just fabricate a manifesto for the real killer to move them through a bullshit speedy trial.

        • kandoh@reddthat.com
          1·
          5 minutes ago

          I can believe that but then why this target? Why not someone with a huge rap sheet and less political and financial connections?

      • Rakonat@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 hour ago

        By whom? And how was it verified? The fact that he had a social media presence doesn’t mean anything, and can equally be argued that he would have just posted it online rather keep it hidden on his person.

        • kandoh@reddthat.com
          1·
          2 minutes ago

          Ken Klippenstein has verified it amd he has a pretty good record with this sort of stuff.

          The scenario where this is an NYPD forgery is possible but extremely unlikely.