i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out

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    Did you call the people pointing out the DNC was headed for disaster children, or were you calling the people who failed at their job children?

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      The children are the people vehemently demanding the DNC unilaterally employ their chosen platform, under the pretense that it would instantly solve their problems, and then subsequently abstaining out of protest. The political landscape is more complicated than that.

      I’ve said elsewhere, elections are won on popularity, not policy. If the DNC unilaterally shifts to a pro-worker platform, all their wealthy donors shift to attack ads against them. Adopting more popular policies can ironically lose them votes as those policies get misrepresented to voters by propagandists.

      Add to that the habit of progressives to abstain when a platform isn’t perfectly catered to them, and you have an impossible situation where you’re trying to court multiple conflicting demographics while the financial support you once had has been turned against you.

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        the children in this case being the people who don’t support genocides? got it. and you wonder why harris lost the ‘popularity’ contest. jesus christ.

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          We play the hand we’re dealt. Accelerated genocide + fascism is a worse outcome than performative resistance to genocide.

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            You were not dealt this hand, you chose it by not telling them ‘no’. it is the most powerful word you have in your arsenal learn to use it. there is a reason utilitarianism is panned basically universally in ethics classes. Had you been willing to exercise it against the DNC you might not be in the very situation you find yourself in now.

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              How did that work out for all the people who said no? Now Trump will help Bibi annex the West Bank. I’ve taken Ethics, utilitarianism was absolutely not panned.

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                1. you had a shit ethics professor.
                2. bibi already has the west bank and it was done under biden’s watch and harris supported it.
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                  “Every ethics course pans utilitarianism”

                  “I took ethics and they gave very serious consideration to utilitarianism”

                  “Am I out of touch? No, it’s the ethics professors who are wrong”

                  Do you hear yourself?

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                    I said you had a bad professor if they didnt teach the basics of how utilitarianism leads people to justifying genocides as a moral positive. In fact id go so far as informing you that the failure of your professor to give you that understanding means they didnt teach it seriously.

                    I never said they shouldn’t teach it or that it wasnt a philosophy to teach seriously. I said its a bad philosophy. And many professors of philosophy do teach it as such and include covering the massive moral and structural failings of the concept.

                    Do you hear yourself? Because you’re arguing things I never stated.