• jonne@infosec.pub
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    2 months ago

    Guess what, not everyone thinks that, and a good politician would actually promise to improve people’s lives instead of continually talking about how bad the other guy is.

    Trotting out the least popular Republicans ever as being on your side didn’t help either.

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      2 months ago

      not everyone thinks that

      Yes, obviously not everyone thinks fascism is an existential threat. Which is probably one of our greatest failures as a society, in terms of education.

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        2 months ago

        If the democrat party genuinely gave a shit they would of held a primary and nominated a qualified and popular candidate. They didn’t. They don’t care!

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          indeed

          the democratic party never fought like it was existential threat and it showed. ‘Long as I did my best’ indeed biden, indeed.

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            I just want you to note that at the bottom of the link you sent me it essentially says it’s written with chat gpt.

            It’s not trustworthy, though I agree with it.

            This content was partially produced with the help of Benzinga Neuro and was reviewed and published by Benzinga editors.

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              Its a video of a former obama official and the video is a primary source. Didnt really care about the textual contents of the page was just grabbing a source for the video. Whether jon is trustworthy source shrug id believe it though.

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                Ah that’s my fault then as I almost never watch videos I absorb information better by reading.

                Btw this isn’t critical of you, it’s just something to unfortunately be aware of in 2024 :(

                Off topic but I believe we’re heading into an information apocalypse where we won’t be able to get factual trustworthy info anymore. I’ve been buying up books and I plan on downloading the entirety of Wikipedia but I might be late on that with ai going wild.

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                  Hehe im absolutely cool with the call out on the article. No offense taken. Unlike many I appreciate when people call out bullshit, long as its actually bullshit.

                  we’ve been in one for awhile. AI hasnt changed anything. We’ve had issues with nonsense science, news, etc. literally since time immemorial.

                  I was actually talking with a friend about how disinformation is an incredibly hard challenge and that I believe the only way to address is to actually put impedance in social media and search engines for new content. To allow filtration to happen before eyes see it.

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                    AI is making bullshit happen faster and it has an air of “trustworthiness” to it despite the fact that it’s bullshitting it’s answers like the smart kid in class who doesn’t bother to do homework.

                    Yellow journalism has been around since the Spanish American war but it’s never been this strong and flooding the information market with garbage that seems legit. It’s so efficient.

                    I disagree with ‘filtering’ content before it’s seen, unless there’s a way to filter out bots and ai junk. Otherwise it’s just a silencing of speech and depending on who controls the filter controls the speech. Imagine Elon musk or RFK Jr controlling what gets seen… arguably musk already does with shitter.

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        I think it’s more “a lot of people would really like someone to significantly change the system of politics, and Trump promised to be a wrecking ball… oh and btw… wtf do you mean Facism. Are you like my Highschool history teacher or something? Isn’t Hitler dead”

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        So, when you’re running, ostensibly to save democracy, you should probably offer those voters stuff that will turn them out. In 2020 Biden promised them a $2000 check, and that worked (even though he reneged on it afterwards).

        The only ones to blame are the Democrats. Trump got less votes than in 2020, so it’s not like he got more popular, the Democrats failed to get their base out. You can’t even blame the Greens this time.

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          Trump is currently sitting at 75.6 million votes, with a few states still finishing off their counts. His 2020 total was 74.2 million. He’s not only already got more votes than he did in 2020, but he’s on track to eclipse that amount even further. Meanwhile Harris is at 71 million vs Biden’s 81 million. So yeah, Dem voters didn’t show up because the lives of their fellow Americans don’t really mean anything to them, but either some of them flipped for Trump or more people who typically sit out elections showed up for him. The numbers show Trump did get more popular. This is apparently what our country wants.

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            I don’t think that MAGA is an existential threat to democracy, or to Americans’ lives. If it were, Pres. Biden would do something about it, right? Like, maybe, lock them up. Or at least say so. He certainly wouldn’t be planning to just hand over the reins and walk away.

            (P.S. If you can’t tell if the above is serious, then why couldn’t millions of voters actually think this way?)