• M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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      13 hours ago

      Urgh, even now before the votes are all in (this will take weeks to finalize) this election was the second biggest turnout since 1932. I hate living in this “post truth” world where everyone just goes off of feelings and emotions. People turned up, for trump.

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        12 hours ago

        What feelings and emotions? Trump got 72.6 million votes so far this year. He got 74.2 in 2020. That’s 1.5 million voters right there. Biden got 81.2 million votes. Harris got 68 million votes. That’s 13 million votes difference.

        And most elections get in the 60% ±5 range voter turnout.

        So…yeah… 1/3 of the population doesn’t bother to vote.

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          1 hour ago

          Yes, 1/3 does not vote. In any election (hell what do local elections hit? 30%) My point is it does not help just pulling the 2020 numbers since those are literally the record numbers of all time. This election was right on the money for turnout, not low, not really super high.

          Blaming voter turnout would require some evidence that voters did not turn out. And in this case Trump won the popular vote, so 2016s electoral college crap is not in play. This election could be cheated (how would I know at this point one way or the other) but my money is on the Democratic party just face planted harder then in 2016.

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            5 minutes ago

            The original comment to which you replied said “Millions of people stayed home. I really doubt Gaza was the reason for all of them.”

            We’ve agreed that millions of people did stay at home. So I don’t see the problem. Yes, they often stay at home. That’s the problem. When it’s two of more of the same it’s more understandable. But both sides have been pretty clear about what’s at stake. And they still stayed home. That’s it. And you’ve agreed that 1/3 of the people didn’t vote.

            Not sure how the op was untruthful or misleading or based in any way “off of feelings and emotions”.

            Millions of people chose to allow this to happen. And yeah, Gaza wasn’t the reason.

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            9 hours ago

            Afaik, everyone that’s a citizen and over the age of 18 is included. But I could be wrong.