• bobman@unilem.org
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    1 year ago

    It won’t galvanize the protestors, that’s for sure.

    Unfortunately, abusers don’t care about bravery or persistence. They only respond to force, and if the abused doesn’t have the force necessary to topple their abusers, they will continue to get abused.

    It’s really that simple. But yeah, thoughts and prayers. NO FOREIGN INTERVENTION. Just thoughts and prayers <3

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      1 year ago

      Do you really want NATO to dismantle the government and then leave the country to sort its own shit out? Have you seen Iraq, Libya, or Afghanistan recently?

      The West generally lacks the public support necessary for an occupation of the length it would take to rebuild Iran. The international community has no appetite for NATO backed regime change.

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        1 year ago

        No, I want them to slowly and steadily build and fortify settlements where people can live free from the oppressive regime.

        Taking the entire country at once is asinine. Build smaller settlements within it to slowly change the culture over generations.

        It won’t be easy, but it’s the only viable solution unless a cultural shift happens from within (it won’t.)

        Wake me up when these problems get solved doing something I don’t suggest.

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          You’d have to take the land first, which means dismantling the government, which means having to occupy the nation.

          There’s no such thing as a fortified settlement in a world where artillery and precision guided munitions exist.

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            1 year ago

            Sure there is, lol.

            Find a place where people welcome intervention and go from there. Start small and build out over time. Will it happen without violence? Unlikely, but I’m interested to see if the problems ever get solved doing something I don’t suggest.

            Let me know when that happens. I can wait.

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              1 year ago

              What you are suggesting would require defeating in detail the military of Iran, which would need to be followed by an occupation of the country likely against a well armed, trained, and motivated resistance.

              Countries don’t tend to take losing parts of themselves too kindly, it is not possible to “start small and build out from there”.

              What you are suggesting is frankly not a very well thought out idea, so the smarmy “LOL LET ME KNOW WHEN THAT WORKS” just comes across as immature.

              Let me know when you come up with a better idea than “huge conflict that will kill hundreds of thousands at best and continue without end for decades”. I can wait.