• Lightor@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    No average dem is fantasizing about Republicans hurting people. This is nonsense, pathetic, and textbook straw man, all your word salad doesn’t change this. We get it, you like Trump, stop with all the games.

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      5 hours ago

      No average dem is fantasizing about Republicans hurting people

      You were in this thread though, lmao.

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      14 hours ago

      I’m not voting for genocide. In fact I already voted against genocide.

      The Dems nor Republicans have a candidate that is against genocide.

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        13 hours ago

        So you voted for someone you know won’t get elected. So you’re ok with the worse of the two between Dem and Rep? Because you had a chance to help prevent the worse of the two coming into office and didn’t. Choosing to cast a vote that won’t impact the outcome helps literally no one. The Gaza situation is not all that is happening in the world.

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          13 hours ago

          I’m not ever going to vote for a genocide, and there is no moral high ground if you do .

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            But you realize that a Dem or Rep is who will be president. And they won’t handle the situation exactly the same. So you’re allowing the person who will handle it worse a better chance to be in power. That is literally what you’ve done. So if the worst happens, the option you could have helped prevent, just know you had a chance to make it less bad and decided your conscious was worth more than people’s lives.

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              12 hours ago

              There is no better or worse in actively arming and participating in a genocide.

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                12 hours ago

                Yes, yes there is. Omfg. Honestly look at this and tell me there isn’t.

                If there are 3 candidates.

                Candidate A wants to spend 100 mil a month arming people to commit genocide.

                Candidate B wants to spend 1 mil a month arming people to commit genocide.

                Candidate C wants no spending.

                It’s obvious candidate A is much worse, 100x worse actually. Now if candidate A and B are very close in who will win, while candidate C has 0 chance how can you best help people. Voting for candidate C does nothing. They won’t get elected. But voting for candidate B prevents as much death as you are able. By voting for C you are one less vote against A. So if A wins, you’ve not prevented that in any way and have enabled 100x more death than B. If you want to stop death you need to look at the situation and see how you can have impact. Being overly idealistic can end up hurting you, like voting for C and changing nothing when you had a chance to save lives.

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                  Your hypothetical is false, though, the Dems and Reps have been working together to support genocide. The GOP isn’t going to go harder on it than the DNC already have been, because they can’t.

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                  There have been no limits on us support to israel so far. They have gotten all they asked for. How could trump possibly give them more? Even if he did, they won’t need it, it won’t change anything.

                  Can you show some example of where we have limited israel in anyway? Why wouldnt that continue under Kamala? She won’t say shed do different, in fact she said Israel has a right to defend itself on a national talk show.

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      13 hours ago

      buddy, half of the comments on this post are libs fantasizing about mass deportations, and acting smug the whole time. they cannot wait to say “I told you so” when the camps get built. stop kidding yourself.

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        13 hours ago

        Lol half the comments? Really? I just scrolled and don’t see 1 in 2 comments being about fantasizing about mass deportation. Almost like you’re being just as hyperbolic as the comic is lol.

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      16 hours ago

      “We get it, you like Trump, stop with all the games.”

      Pot meets kettle. So I guess all of that talk about “strawmen” was just projection. Okay. I see what you did there.

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        12 hours ago

        Saying some BS like a group of people fantasizes about people getting hurt, yeah that sounds very on brand for Trump and people who follow him.

        Also, assuming who someone is voting for is not a straw man lol, might wanna look up the term. And when someone says being pragmatic is bad, yeah, sounds like a Trump voter. Pragmatic literally means: dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations. Look it up.

        If you think that’s bad then you’re literally living in a fantasy world of theories and what ifs. Kinda like his tariffs idea or injecting bleach, or a million other stupid ideas he’s had.

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          I see you are now trying to construct a new straw man. You might want to look up the term “projection.” Go ahead, look it up.