Unironically I’ve heard this talking point before, when shouting down a nazi at a rally at my school in 2014. You know the english spelling of Yishuv so I’m going to assume you know what demographic they’re from, and that that’s not physically possible. You can down vote me all you like, but at least I can say I don’t agree with nazis
So its important to make distinctions between different groups of jews, and be aware of historical context, but only when those things are useful for defending the Zionist project. Got it. Thanks. And I haven’t voted on a single comment of yours beyond the first.
I was refering to general downvotes towards stating historical fact, I’m not the one who conflated “indigenous” Jews to the ones literally running for their lives and making it sound as if they collaborated with the nazis. Do you really think I’m a zionist that’s laughable, I just know the history of the region
You’re really going out of your way to inject irrelevant historical context into a discussion that doesn’t really require it which is a pretty typical Hasbarist tactic for muddying the waters of discourse around Israel. If you’re not a Zionist you’re doing their work for them.
Just read your own comment back to yourself, painting me as a bad guy for conflating one group of Jews with another when my original problem with your comment was you doing the exact same thing. I didn’t sincerely draw that comparison, I asked if you considered them the same people to illustrate the problem with this kind of conflation, but it seems to have completely flown over your head.
The jews are not Israel but Israel definitely wants people to keep conflating them that way.
and the palestinians are not the ottomans, for that matter
No, but there were Jews in that area. And even more Jews all over the peninsula.
How many of them were Israeli?
They were Old Yishv, they were part of the foundation of Israel.
Are they the same as the Yishuv who collaborated with the Nazis?
Unironically I’ve heard this talking point before, when shouting down a nazi at a rally at my school in 2014. You know the english spelling of Yishuv so I’m going to assume you know what demographic they’re from, and that that’s not physically possible. You can down vote me all you like, but at least I can say I don’t agree with nazis
So its important to make distinctions between different groups of jews, and be aware of historical context, but only when those things are useful for defending the Zionist project. Got it. Thanks. And I haven’t voted on a single comment of yours beyond the first.
I was refering to general downvotes towards stating historical fact, I’m not the one who conflated “indigenous” Jews to the ones literally running for their lives and making it sound as if they collaborated with the nazis. Do you really think I’m a zionist that’s laughable, I just know the history of the region
You’re really going out of your way to inject irrelevant historical context into a discussion that doesn’t really require it which is a pretty typical Hasbarist tactic for muddying the waters of discourse around Israel. If you’re not a Zionist you’re doing their work for them.
Just read your own comment back to yourself, painting me as a bad guy for conflating one group of Jews with another when my original problem with your comment was you doing the exact same thing. I didn’t sincerely draw that comparison, I asked if you considered them the same people to illustrate the problem with this kind of conflation, but it seems to have completely flown over your head.