• Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I think discussion is fine. I think the article fosters discussion. I also completely agree with them sidelining what could give the Republicans ammo and votes in this critical time.

    But I’m just a Canadian who hates headline gore and want to point out that:

    Harris isn’t pushing Medicare for All anymore. Progressives say that’s OK.

    Is a shitty headline. It doesn’t match the tone or even fully the bias of the article and is click baity at best. It instantly paints the discussion for headline readers and article for the clickers as contrarian.

    Harris isn’t pushing Medicare for All anymore. Is that OK?

    Is what a headline should look like in this case and would probably foster discussion and less downvotes. But one can’t even tell shitty journalism from manipulation these days, can we?

    Edit: whipped out my black highlighter for some bolding.

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      could give the Republicans ammo and votes in this critical time.

      But republicans will immediately pivot to another area they want her to be more conservative with, and this change will have a negative effect on Dem turnout.

      This one thing won’t erase her lead, but she’s also said she’s not for banning fracking anymore either. That will also negatively effect Dem turnout.

      Everytime she becomes slightly more conservative to appease Republicans, she gains no votes and loses a little.

      That’s not even getting into how at the end of the day, we desperately need to do these things she’s now say she won’t even try to do.

      There’s no way to look at this and honestly say it’s a good move, unless you just always personally agreed with Republicans on these issues. And for those people, they were probably never going to vote D anyways.

  • paf0@lemmy.worldOP
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    I’m not allowed to post things from the candidate’s own blog. I’m not allowed to post articles from 2019, but what about this?

    Her reversal is not ok and we should be allowed to discuss it.

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      4 months ago

      The headline saying progressives are ok with it is bullshit.

      But if stupid headlines broke any rules, there’d be a lot less posts here.

      This one will likely stay up

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        That’s the headline from the article and I’m not allowed to change it. I ended up having to copy paste it as the automatic import did not work, so I suppose the title tag could be different. I can’t quite tell on my phone.

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          Nah. I meant it’s not your fault it’s a dumb headline, it’s the journalist/editor who picked it.

          I should have explicitly said that to be clear tho considering how much hassle you’ve went thru to get a post in

  • K1nsey6@lemmy.ml
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    They don’t need to lie about what they support anymore. They don’t have to offer anything because they’ve never been held accountable for their lies. All they need is that D next to their name to get elected. Policy means nothing as long as they are not the other fascist team.

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      I don’t think she lied in 2019 about M4A being what this country needs.

      I think the same thing that happened to Obama happened to her

      I might think Biden is a poor president, but fuck, anyone that spends four years with the guy does become a lot more conservative. He’s incredibly effective at that apparently. It’s probably why he’s always got along so well with Republicans.

      It’s debatable if her mind has really changed on the matter, or she’s just been convinced to take this stance for donations.

      But I don’t think she lied in 2019.