• YeetPics@mander.xyz
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    3 months ago

    You sound mad, but ‘the holocaust’ was a specific event in wwII. 1942-1945.

    All holocausts are genocides, not all genocides are holocausts.

    Hope this helps you 🫶

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      3 months ago

      What’s the difference? (Serious)

      edit: nm I looked it up… The term genocide was created in 1944 to define the systematic nature of the eradication of the Jews.

      hol·o·caust noun 1. destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war. “a nuclear holocaust”

      I would say it’s fair game to call what Israel is doing to the Palestinians another Holocaust. Not all holocausts are genocides though… For instance the citizens of Hiroshima died in a nuclear holocaust, but it wasn’t a genocide. THE Holocaust was just a term given arbitrarily to what happened to the Jews, and there’s no reason the term can’t be used again. If Israel is systematically eradication the Palestinian people then we can call it a genocide. If they are doing so with “destruction and slaughter on a mass scale” we can also call it a holocaust.

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        3 months ago

        What’s the difference?

        The dates. (Seriously)

        It’s 2024. The Holocaust (a specific genocide) ended 79 years ago.

        So again, all holocausts are genocides, but not all genocides are holocausts.

        I don’t make words or their meanings.

        I hope this helps 🫶

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          That’s holocaust exceptionalism though. And Israel uses this to justify their genocide. That person didn’t make up these words or meanings. They just looked them up. Words don’t just mean things in a specific year only and then never again anything else.

          Let’s call it Holocaust 2.0 though? Is that okay? We can slap a year on it too if you like.

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          3 months ago

          Well yeah… Obviously THE Holocaust isn’t happening again… But A holocaust is… And sadly it’s being perpetrated by the victims of THE Holocaust

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              3 months ago

              The shitty rainbow poster is exactly what I’m discussing. Apparently I am wrong because these fine folks can connect the dots between a comment thread relating to a meme and any other comment thread.

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            3 months ago

            The victim’s of the Holocaust are dead, that’s what being a victim of a genocide looks like.

            The current genocide is being perpetrated by the descendants of the survivors of the Holocaust. Likely being seen as victims on the world stage for the last 75 years emboldened them to forget the horrors their parents and grand parents lived through.

            In truth, genocide is a facet of human society, just like war and famine.

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              3 months ago

              I think we can take the poster with the grain of salt it’s pretty obviously intended to come with

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      3 months ago

      I vote to name this one a holocaust too :) after all it has a lot in common, especially being killed en masse. But boooooo, we must have the EXACT SAME GAS CHAMBERS.

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        3 months ago

        You can confuse historical events with current events all you like.

        It won’t be making me look like a disconnected stooge, and that’s fine with me 🫶