When it’s done right, it’s amazing. The problem is that (here in the UK) it’s just terrible.
Example, going from London to Edinburgh
A flight takes 1h30m and costs £33
A train takes 4h26m and costs £178
Yes there are other monetary costs involved (driving to the airport, parking) and other time costs involved (you need to be at the airport 90 minutes early) but the headline price make a flight seem like much better value for time and money.
Trains are also often late or cancelled, this seems to happen much less with flights.
Until flights are taxed to hell people aren’t going change their habits.
That’s interesting, because it’s basically the opposite in the US. They’re cheaper and more reliable. You can’t buy a puddle jumper flight for less than $100, and trains are rarely delayed by much, if at all.
No matter the number of seats, if you get 4.5L/100km/passenger or less you’re better off traveling by car instead. That means two people in a Corolla pollute less than two people doing the same trip in an A380 filled with passengers.
Flying is horrible, 2.5% of emissions with twice the impact because it’s released at high altitude, mostly done for leisure or to transport stuff that should be transported by boat and trains? Ban all non essential air traffic.
Back to the roots, passenger ships, ferries, railways (fast overnight connections).
Ban short-distance flights.
Imagine Ryanair as a fast train operator.
Rail is so nice. I wish there were connections everywhere.
When it’s done right, it’s amazing. The problem is that (here in the UK) it’s just terrible.
Example, going from London to Edinburgh
A flight takes 1h30m and costs £33 A train takes 4h26m and costs £178
Yes there are other monetary costs involved (driving to the airport, parking) and other time costs involved (you need to be at the airport 90 minutes early) but the headline price make a flight seem like much better value for time and money.
Trains are also often late or cancelled, this seems to happen much less with flights.
Until flights are taxed to hell people aren’t going change their habits.
That’s interesting, because it’s basically the opposite in the US. They’re cheaper and more reliable. You can’t buy a puddle jumper flight for less than $100, and trains are rarely delayed by much, if at all.
I road that train! 70 minutes late so I got a full refund.
Ban all jet aircraft with fewer than 200 seats.
No matter the number of seats, if you get 4.5L/100km/passenger or less you’re better off traveling by car instead. That means two people in a Corolla pollute less than two people doing the same trip in an A380 filled with passengers.
The UK could meet its net-zero goals if it halved the number of private-jet flights.
Flying isn’t entirely horrible, but private jets are just about the worst thing you can do for the environment.
Flying is horrible, 2.5% of emissions with twice the impact because it’s released at high altitude, mostly done for leisure or to transport stuff that should be transported by boat and trains? Ban all non essential air traffic.
What really should happen is short flights should become electric.