• NJSpradlin@lemmy.world
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    I believe their entire suit is probably lined for events like this.

    Edit: so people stop with the dumb ‘scifi isn’t real’ BS about body armor, I was merely stating that there is definitely a possibility that he could be wearing small arms rated Kevlar under his suit, or have it sewn into his ridiculously oversized suit, and be wearing higher caliber plates protecting his center mass.

    It isn’t unreasonable to think this, and it could make sense to take a headshot if you suspected the possibility of something like this, over going for the one shot chance of a center mass hit to kill your target.

    Sure, I could have worded it better, but he COULD have small arms sewn into that terrible suit, and he COULD be wearing plates protecting his center mass.

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      There is no bulletproof tuxedo like in the movies. There is 5.56 ammo that will go through any soft armor.

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        … I’m not a foremost expert of anything, but I regularly work with some of this stuff. Nothing highly advanced or obscenely expensive, but enough to know that he could absolutely be wearing something that would make, at least, handguns to the center mass ineffective. Having not seen the guy naked and not knowing what his chest looks like under his oversized suit… I couldn’t tell you exactly, especially since I’m normally and regularly not interested in what protection he’s wearing, if or if he isn’t wearing a vest with a higher caliber plate.

        It’s not ‘sewn’ in shit, scifi or bad story writing, armor I’m talking about. Do you really think the president of the US can’t have small arms rated Kevlar in his oversized suit, and a vest with a plate on underneath? He’s fat enough, and his suit is ill fitted enough, as it is, you wouldn’t even noticed.

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          Nothing that would line a suit and still have it look anything like a suit wouldn’t protect against anything worth being protected against. A bulletproof vest isn’t magic armor that makes you invulnerable. A shot from anything realistic would easily break multiple bones and cause internal damage. And that’s with the bullet stopping at the vest.

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            A shot from anything realistic would easily break multiple bones and cause internal damage.

            That seems marginally better than getting shot with no protection at all. It wouldn’t blow my mind if they had some sort of protection on him.

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            No one said armor prevents any damage at all,
            You’re pulling that out of your ass. In fact other posts in this thread are talking about how even without penetration, the distributed force from armor stopping a bullet could still be fatal for a 70+ year old.

            Back on the actual topic, Hacksmith made a bespoke suit that could stop small arms with publicly accessible materials for $100k. And all of their testing was at pretty close range.

            It is not infeasible for a former President and current candidate’s suit used during outdoor public events like this to have some sort of material to mitigate embedded in it, even if it isn’t obviously won’t provide the same protection as full armor. Every little bit helps.

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        Have you seen Trump’s suits? Dude could be wearing half inch plate under that monstrosity.

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        Have you opened up standard Kevlar body armor and seen the Kevlar pieces? It’s entirely feasible to put those same pieces in his oversized suits. Obviously, those are for small arms. For his center mass they’d put higher caliber protective plates, as well.

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      People act like a bulletproof vest/suit is outlandish when we’re talking about a guy who has a bulletproof car and like 25 snipers watching his back lol. When he was president he had anti aircraft guns on the roof of his house. The secret service takes their job really seriously.