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MOSCOW, June 23 (Reuters) - Russia said on Sunday that the United States was responsible for a Ukrainian attack on the Russian-annexed Crimean peninsula with five U.S.-supplied missiles that killed at least five people including three children and injured 124 more.
The Russian Defence Ministry said four of the U.S.-delivered Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) missiles, equipped with cluster warheads, were shot down by air defence systems and the ammunition of a fifth had detonated in mid-air.
I know everyone’s here dunking on the hypocrisy of Russia making this complaint and that is valid but it’s still sad this happened and I personally don’t think the US should be distributing cluster munitions which are inherently more dangerous to civilians.
USA shouldn’t be producing/using cluster shells in the first place.
The end doesn’t justify the means
Maybe if Russia wasn’t in Crimea, they wouldn’t have to worry about getting bombed?
Crazy idea
I take a piss on russia, but I don’t do it on civilians.
Russian news sources really can’t be trusted, but assuming it is true, it’s certainly a tragedy that civilians were hurt. And I wish they hadn’t been.
The solution though is for civilians to leave Crimea. They are on illegally seized land, not wholly dissimilar to Israeli settlers. It isn’t their fault that their children died of course, but they need to leave the area. Issue is, Russia probably won’t let them, because they’d prefer civilian casualties to occur.
It’s also kinda rich of Russia to complain about this after they’ve bombed, killed, and orphaned countless Ukrainian kids. They’ve even kidnapped some of them. And from what I recall happened in Mariupol, they might’ve even done ethnic cleansing. It doesn’t excuse Russian civilians being killed, but Russia has absolutely no legs to stand on here.
In your attempt to piss on Russia, they claim you killed civilians. Piss should no longer be produced, it’s too dangerous.
I believe the US isn’t creating more of these, and they are used in Ukraine because it’s their choice to deploy these munitions on their land
Us basically never uses em anyway. I think they fired less than 100 during the whole GWOT. Ukraine is getting old stock that was going to have to be decommissioned soon. And let’s be really real here. They are FUCKING Russia up. One of the first batch wrecked a shitload of helicopters. Subsequent ones have hit other airfields and critical equipment. There’s a video of a single missile taking out 3 or 4 S-400s. Catastrophic cook-offs.
I’m not convinced this whole thing isn’t bullshit by Russia to turn public opinion against ATACMS just because they’ve been so effective primarily because they can’t fucking intercept them. In the video I mentioned before, their best air defense platforms fired 6 total missiles to intercept ONE and FAILED. This article claims 4 ATACMS shot down. Not a goddamn chance that’s true. It’s more likely Russia accidentally bombed a civilian area like they have several times already.
Yeah that’s true too, I was kind of focusing on the direct impact here but they don’t have a place in any conflict.