The star of David makes the posters ambiguous they could refer to either Israel or Jews. The grafitti in the images is explicitly antisemitic. Splitting hairs over this is pretty gross imo.
I don’t like crticiism of Israel being called antisemitic, but that doesn’t make antisemitism suddenly ok
Dude, nobody is saying the graffiti is not anti-Semitic, it literally says “kill the jews”, how on earth would that not be antisemitic. I’m saying they’re putting the graffiti on top of protestors in an obvious attempt to conflate antizionist protests with antisemitism
People have attacked synagogs for Israel’s actions because of the star of David. People conflated the two.
It would be great if people did nuance. They do not
Yeah, some people have done that shit. I’m not arguing “there’s no antisemitism anymore”, that would be ridiculous, and antisemitism sucks. What sucks too is using antisemitism broadly to accuse non-antisemitic but anti-zionist protests against genocide in Gaza.
I agree. But I think it behoves people protesting against Israel to be very clear on that point and using the star of David and phrases like “the final solution” is the very opposite of that. To me, that looks pretty antisemitic.
I say that as an atheist who detests the actions of the Israeli state and who has been pro Palestinian for decades.
Bottom line, hatred of any group is appalling and people need to be clear that’s not what they’re doing
… And are you REALLY saying that the “final solution” phrase in this context doesn’t seem just a tad antisemitic?
Look, I’m opposed to Israels actions but I think you’re being willfully blind
The star of David makes the posters ambiguous they could refer to either Israel or Jews. The grafitti in the images is explicitly antisemitic. Splitting hairs over this is pretty gross imo. I don’t like crticiism of Israel being called antisemitic, but that doesn’t make antisemitism suddenly ok
Dude, nobody is saying the graffiti is not anti-Semitic, it literally says “kill the jews”, how on earth would that not be antisemitic. I’m saying they’re putting the graffiti on top of protestors in an obvious attempt to conflate antizionist protests with antisemitism
It’s not hard to distinguish between Jews and Israel. Those words I just used do the job. The protestors could do the same
In both signs, you can clearly see it’s the flag of Israel because of the blue stripes on top and bottom.
People have attacked synagogs for Israel’s actions because of the star of David. People conflated the two. It would be great if people did nuance. They do not
Yeah, some people have done that shit. I’m not arguing “there’s no antisemitism anymore”, that would be ridiculous, and antisemitism sucks. What sucks too is using antisemitism broadly to accuse non-antisemitic but anti-zionist protests against genocide in Gaza.
I agree. But I think it behoves people protesting against Israel to be very clear on that point and using the star of David and phrases like “the final solution” is the very opposite of that. To me, that looks pretty antisemitic. I say that as an atheist who detests the actions of the Israeli state and who has been pro Palestinian for decades. Bottom line, hatred of any group is appalling and people need to be clear that’s not what they’re doing
… And are you REALLY saying that the “final solution” phrase in this context doesn’t seem just a tad antisemitic? Look, I’m opposed to Israels actions but I think you’re being willfully blind