• C0unterfactual@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    This echo chamber doesn’t want to hear about the fact that Hamas is a murderous terror group that intentionally endangers Palestinian civilians to further its religious and political cause.

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      5 months ago

      Because it is victim blaming bullshit to justify the genocide against Palestinians. Whatever Hamas is doesn’t justify the atrocities committed by Israel especially since Oct. 7 but also the Decades before. Did you know more than 500 Palestinians were murdered in the Westbank since Oct. 7? There is no Hamas there, but now that the Israeli fascists can get away with it, they enjoy their impunity as they murder, rape and pillage.

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        5 months ago

        You are right but that does work both ways.

        Whatever fucked things Hamas has done, is not a blank cheque for Israel to murder innocent people.

        While at the same time

        Whatever fucked things Israel has done, is not a blank cheque for Hamas to murder innocent people.

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          5 months ago

          No one’s justifying Hamas here what the fuck are you smoking??

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        There was a ceasefire on Oct. 6. Then Hamas and other Palestinian fighters started the present conflict in Gaza on Oct.7. I won’t recount how because Lemmy doesn’t like to hear when what they perceive to be a victim group commits unthinkable atrocities. But then they took these hostages back into Gaza, and hid them in tunnels under civilian infrastructure. This is fact. Hamas started the present war, but everyone only blames Israel. I believe this qualifies as what you call victim blaming bullshit.

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          5 months ago

          The war started in 1947, and the displacement of hundreds of thousands of people, any hand waving about some other starting point, is intentional revisionism by the Zionists to cover the scope and scale of their crimes. Which has now grown to a scale rivaling any genocidal you wish to name.

          • C0unterfactual@sh.itjust.works
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            5 months ago

            Regional tension has been going on for far longer than that, but Hamas is the elected government currently in Gaza. They began the current fighting. End of story.

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          5 months ago

          There was a ceasefire on October 6? Then how come more than 200 Palestinians have been murdered by the Israeli occupation in 2023 before October 6?

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            5 months ago

            Maybe for the same reason that Hamas fires rockets into Israeli territory all the time, or pledges to kill as many jews as they can.