You don’t believe Spain is part of Europe, or you’re insisting that their comment must mean something beyond it literally said?
Because their comment was ultimately just about the fact that there was more than enough contact between Africa and Europe for random black people to be Arthurian knights or whatever. And that’s just a fact.
This might really grind your gears: There were even black Vikings.
There’s evidence of Viking slave raids and trading expeditions in the Mediterranean, specifically on the North African and Southern Spanish coasts, not to mention all the contact they had with Byzantium.
So, yes, there were a lot of black people in medieval Europe. Just not as a notable percentage of the total population outside of Southern Spain, but in the sense that even today a couple thousand people is still a lot of people.
I’m saying Spain having Moors doesn’t really warrant saying Medieval Europe (as a whole) had “a lot of black people” imo.
So, yes, there were a lot of black people in medieval Europe. Just not as a notable percentage of the total population outside of Southern Spain, but in the sense that even today a couple thousand people is still a lot of people.
Just not as a notable percentage of the total population
Indeed. A couple of thousand today is definitely not a sensible metric for “a lot”, since that’s an incredible tiny population compared to overall.
It’s just when someone says there was a lot of black people in Medieval Europe it does peak ones interest because there really wasn’t by how you’d first think of what “a lot” means.
You’re saying that, because you’re invested for some reason in black people not being on screens in a fictional world.
It can be a bit funny and seem inaccurate is all. If someone wants to put in black people to such setting or whites to Ancient Chinese setting or whatever then by all means. It just might not accurately represent the typical situation at the time.
I wonder what “a lot” means for you
Would a pretty large portion of Spain count for you?
Not for most part of Europe, no.
You don’t believe Spain is part of Europe, or you’re insisting that their comment must mean something beyond it literally said?
Because their comment was ultimately just about the fact that there was more than enough contact between Africa and Europe for random black people to be Arthurian knights or whatever. And that’s just a fact.
This might really grind your gears: There were even black Vikings.
There’s evidence of Viking slave raids and trading expeditions in the Mediterranean, specifically on the North African and Southern Spanish coasts, not to mention all the contact they had with Byzantium.
So, yes, there were a lot of black people in medieval Europe. Just not as a notable percentage of the total population outside of Southern Spain, but in the sense that even today a couple thousand people is still a lot of people.
I’m saying Spain having Moors doesn’t really warrant saying Medieval Europe (as a whole) had “a lot of black people” imo.
Indeed. A couple of thousand today is definitely not a sensible metric for “a lot”, since that’s an incredible tiny population compared to overall.
And I’m saying they didn’t say that. Because they didn’t.
You’re saying that, because you’re invested for some reason in black people not being on screens in a fictional world.
It’s just when someone says there was a lot of black people in Medieval Europe it does peak ones interest because there really wasn’t by how you’d first think of what “a lot” means.
It can be a bit funny and seem inaccurate is all. If someone wants to put in black people to such setting or whites to Ancient Chinese setting or whatever then by all means. It just might not accurately represent the typical situation at the time.