Nothing you’ve linked has really backed up your assertions about psilocybin being great for PTSD so I’m going to stop replying.
Medicine circles personal exploration end of life anxiety etc.
I’ve explained why MDMA is better at relaxing the amygdala. The pharmacology supports this as does the current research. The papers you have linked don’t really. One study in a small group setting, which I absolutely do believe would be beneficial for reasons I’ve mentioned earlier. And I also explained why the Western therapy modality conflicts with that model. And how that would make access difficult because of insurance issues. I. E. good luck getting insurance on guided group psilocybin journeys anytime soon. The U.S. health industry already struggles with access to group therapy and they’re not giving everyone hallucinogens.
It’s pretty clear you have blinders on when it comes to mdma, so I understand why you don’t want to believe in the clinical results of a safer, more effective therapy for PTSD symptoms since that clashes with how you feel about MDMA.
It seems likely Molly will eventually become a less dangerous alternative to even more dangerous medications in dealing with certain symptoms, but I don’t see the point in asking people to wait while we develop a less safe, more complicated therapy when we already have a cost-effective, completely safe and simple therapy available that conclusively treats those symptoms and provides the same benefits more dangerous therapies might provide in the future.
The therapy is already developed and has been being worked on since the '80s.
It’s just waiting for approval. I don’t understand why you’re being so dense or pushing this point like it’s one or the other.
They’re both great in their own ways and the research for MDMA and PTSD is way ahead of psilocybin. I showed you in the article I linked above that you just completely dismissed while you continue to post irrelevant articles back.
I get that you think mushrooms are the cure all for everything but man you really don’t understand the lay of the landscape here. Where it’s at, where it’s been, and what works within the context of Western medicine the best. For PTSD treatment.
Anyway I’m really done there’s just too much projection in that last post for me to ignore.
The articles I provided to you are evidence of further ongoing trials specifically for PTSD using psilocybin, since you misread the original provided article. Follow-up and related studies are not irrelevant in therapeutic research, which you may recognize in all of your personally esteemed Molly studies.
The earlier article shows that psilocybin alleviates the PTSD symptoms you hope Molly will and provides the same benefits molly may provide eventually after clinical trials are completed.
Then you insult and make obviously incorrect assumptions about me instead of asking questions to remedy your ignorance.
You know what sam Jackson says about assumptions in the movie basic.
You’re wearing blinders.
You personally like a less safe and less effective therapy. That is totally fine.
It’s also very clear that it makes more sense to focus on a conclusively safe and effective therapy rather than an unsafe and less effective therapy.
I think people should do tons of drugs. That doesn’t make all drugs safer or more effective in all situations.
I don’t see the point of focusing on more dangerous, possibly effective future therapies when a safe, effective therapy is currently available for the same symptoms.
Pretty telling that “projection” is what’s setting you off.
Nothing you’ve linked has really backed up your assertions about psilocybin being great for PTSD so I’m going to stop replying.
Medicine circles personal exploration end of life anxiety etc.
I’ve explained why MDMA is better at relaxing the amygdala. The pharmacology supports this as does the current research. The papers you have linked don’t really. One study in a small group setting, which I absolutely do believe would be beneficial for reasons I’ve mentioned earlier. And I also explained why the Western therapy modality conflicts with that model. And how that would make access difficult because of insurance issues. I. E. good luck getting insurance on guided group psilocybin journeys anytime soon. The U.S. health industry already struggles with access to group therapy and they’re not giving everyone hallucinogens.
It’s pretty clear you have blinders on when it comes to mdma, so I understand why you don’t want to believe in the clinical results of a safer, more effective therapy for PTSD symptoms since that clashes with how you feel about MDMA.
It seems likely Molly will eventually become a less dangerous alternative to even more dangerous medications in dealing with certain symptoms, but I don’t see the point in asking people to wait while we develop a less safe, more complicated therapy when we already have a cost-effective, completely safe and simple therapy available that conclusively treats those symptoms and provides the same benefits more dangerous therapies might provide in the future.
The therapy is already developed and has been being worked on since the '80s.
It’s just waiting for approval. I don’t understand why you’re being so dense or pushing this point like it’s one or the other.
They’re both great in their own ways and the research for MDMA and PTSD is way ahead of psilocybin. I showed you in the article I linked above that you just completely dismissed while you continue to post irrelevant articles back.
I get that you think mushrooms are the cure all for everything but man you really don’t understand the lay of the landscape here. Where it’s at, where it’s been, and what works within the context of Western medicine the best. For PTSD treatment.
Anyway I’m really done there’s just too much projection in that last post for me to ignore.
The articles I provided to you are evidence of further ongoing trials specifically for PTSD using psilocybin, since you misread the original provided article. Follow-up and related studies are not irrelevant in therapeutic research, which you may recognize in all of your personally esteemed Molly studies.
The earlier article shows that psilocybin alleviates the PTSD symptoms you hope Molly will and provides the same benefits molly may provide eventually after clinical trials are completed.
Then you insult and make obviously incorrect assumptions about me instead of asking questions to remedy your ignorance.
You know what sam Jackson says about assumptions in the movie basic.
You’re wearing blinders.
You personally like a less safe and less effective therapy. That is totally fine.
It’s also very clear that it makes more sense to focus on a conclusively safe and effective therapy rather than an unsafe and less effective therapy.
I think people should do tons of drugs. That doesn’t make all drugs safer or more effective in all situations.
I don’t see the point of focusing on more dangerous, possibly effective future therapies when a safe, effective therapy is currently available for the same symptoms.
Pretty telling that “projection” is what’s setting you off.