• BakerBagel@midwest.social
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    6 months ago

    Yes, there are two choices. So i support people who are trying to make the less terrible one better. Meanwhile you want people to just shit up and support genocide.

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      6 months ago

      Meanwhile you want people to just shit up and support genocide.

      Oh, is that what I want? I guess calling the Israeli genocide a genocide and advocating for the total removal of US aid from Israel is support of genocide.

      Or is it because I don’t regard Trump as winning as a reasonable alternative to Biden that makes me a genocide supporter?

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        6 months ago

        No one is saying trump winning is preferable. They are saying it is inevitable if Biden continues down this path.

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          6 months ago

          No one is saying trump winning is preferable.

          I can find you people saying exactly that while claiming to be left-wing.

          They are saying it is inevitable if Biden continues down this path.

          Their proposal for course-correction is “If Biden takes up a position that is currently unpopular with the vast majority of Americans, including a majority of Democrats, his numbers will improve”

          That’s not very compelling.

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            6 months ago

            It is this fucking simple.

            You have never trumpers, that’s you, your vote is locked and Biden could dick down a toddler on live tv and you wouldn’t care. We can safely disregard these people, they are the Biden equivalent of magats.

            So you can either try to get the people who support genocide on your side, or the people trying to stop it.

            Either way, we get what we deserve because of the votes.

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              6 months ago

              And apparently, your argument is that you should and must support never having a say in your government again because Biden is evil. Not that it will prevent an evil man from getting into the presidency; no, but you HAVE to punish Biden, no matter what rights you lose everyone else in the process!

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                6 months ago

                I don’t have to punish anyone.

                You aren’t asking me to punish someone, you are asking me to support someone:

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                  6 months ago

                  I’m asking you to support not being under a fascist regime. I’m asking you to support being able to fight for the next four years without having to take up arms. I didn’t realize “Please do this so we DON’T have to deal with the prospect of waging war in our own country if we want any sort of change away from a fascist regime” was going to be such a hard-fucking-sell to someone who opposes war.

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                    6 months ago

                    You are asking me to support someone I disagree with on a fundamental level.

                    I won’t support either person who wants that. You guys can fight over which genocidal maniac runs the country.

                    I will keep working on supporting people from the bottom up who disagree with sending bombs to kill toddlers.