• Thann@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Obviously capitalism has problems, and obviously fixing them would help. But its not like depression would end. And its not like people in China arnt depressed and if psychedelic therapy was used there to help people, I don’t think you would be shittalking it. The foxconn factory I’m talking about is in shenzen, so why don’t you advocate for psychedelic therapy there? Clearly the horrors of capitalism are also ravishing China, so do they not benefit from psychedelics?

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      6 months ago

      Nobody is arguing that depression would end. Again, this is just the straw man you keep trotting out here. Try engaging with what’s actually being said for a change.

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        6 months ago

        Im legitimately trying to understand why you think psychedelic therapy is bad…

        you say its papering over the root cause of mental illness, while simultaneously acknowledging that removing the so called “root cause” would still leave a need for it. so why then is it not a good thing? why is the title of your post not: “psycadelic therapy helps americans, its time to bring it to china!”

        It seems obvious your prerogative is to shittalk everything done in the US while papering over the same exact issues in china.

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          6 months ago

          I don’t think that psychedelic therapy is bad, and I’ve repeatedly stated this throughout the conversation. Please actually read what I wrote, and then reply to the points I actually made. Thank you.

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            6 months ago

            OK so psychedelic therapy is good, its just evidence that america is bad?

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              6 months ago

              The actual point, that I’ve repeated in many different ways here, is that problems caused by capitalist exploitation need to be addressed instead of being papered over. Why is it so hard for you to engage with the point being made?

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                6 months ago

                So would the Chinese people be better off with psychedelic therapy?

                And if so would that be papering over anything?

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                  6 months ago

                  People in China suffering from psychological problems would benefit from therapy the same way any other people suffering from similar problems would benefit. This should be obvious to anybody with a functioning brain. The fact that you felt the need to ask the question is quite strange to be honest.

                  Meanwhile, as I’ve repeatedly explained, whether using therapy is papering over anything or not is a question of whether the underlying cause of mental problems could be addressed instead or not. Let me know if you’re still struggling with understanding this.

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                    6 months ago

                    OK, so you then believe that psycadelic therapy in China would be papering over the underlying causes of their depression?