• rah@feddit.uk
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      7 个月前

      People will prioritise their own benefit at the expense of others’. They will enrich themselves.

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        7 个月前

        No, people prioritize thier own benefit. People work to improve their material conditions, doing so at the expense of others is unnatural, because humans are a social, cooperative species.

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          7 个月前

          doing so at the expense of others is unnatural, because humans are a social, cooperative species

          Your assertion that exploiting others is unnatural is patently absurd. To repeat myself from elsewhere:

          Co-operation doesn’t conflict with greed. Humans can and must co-operate within society to survive but humans are also motivated to do everything they can to screw over others to ensure their genes have the greatest chance of propagating, as long as screwing over others doesn’t threaten survival.

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            7 个月前

            You can claim bullshit, but it doesn’t make it true. It’s a naturalistic fallacy.

            Think about what you just said, logically: you think people have an intrinsic motivation to screw over others to get ahead, but also that humans are communal? You believe being selfish and greedy is positively related to reproduction, despite being massive red flags and hindering the group’s survival?

            Nonsense.

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              7 个月前

              ROFL. Adultery. Theft. Fraud. Murder. I don’t understand how you can be blind to human behaviour.

              More from another post:

              “Human beings must necessarily cooperate and aid each other in order to survive. It’s how our species evolved. However, that doesn’t mean humans only ever aid each other, or even that they care about others except as a means to survive. Humans will cooperate when it’s beneficial and also stab their fellow humans in the back, step on them and exploit them when it’s beneficial. That’s why all we have are systems of elites and peasants, filled with squalor and death. But the species continues because of those systems.”

              Edit: have a watch of this video:

              Power Games

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                7 个月前

                I never once said humans cannot act outside of collaborative measures, but you on the other hand claimed this is a natural and present desire, regardless of system. This is false.

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                  you on the other hand claimed this is a natural and present desire, regardless of system. This is false.

                  It is not false, it’s evolutionary psychology. Have a look at this video:

                  Power Games

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                    It is false. You believe there is an intrinsic desire to sabatage, innate to humans, which is false. This behavior is only present in stressed conditions, what comes first is desire for cooperation.