I’d rather the tech workers lose their jobs then send American soldiers to die in a war over global power. Like I said, China could just sell us chips if we need them so badly.
If China wins the war of Imperial Expansion vs Taiwan, they’ll continue attacking outward, risking Japan and Philippines next, or maybe Korea. Hard to say what their next priority would be, but its up and out in any case.
That’s the funny thing about war. When someone wins a war, there’s no reason for them to stop. And these ancient empires have memories.
The safest time to handle everything is when the smallest flames of war begin. You snuff it out before it grows any larger. We’re going to fight anyway, the question is if we fight for Taiwan, or if we fight at a later stage.
This is the same “Red China” that funded North Korea expansion / the Korean war. They have huge imperialistic and expansionist ambitions. Always have.
Why should I care if China is the empire vs the United States? The United States has been an imperialist, expansionist empire for centuries. You’re fear-mongering, but you’re really just worried about yourself and you’re willing to throw soldiers into a meat grinder for your own job security.
But you don’t care about the people you want to send off to die? Don’t you see how that is selfish?
My uncle is in the marines. So are many of my close friends. Of course I care. But there’s also our interests that must be protected.
It’s especially bad when you look at the class background of military recruits compared to tech jobs. You’re sending the poors to die.
Marines in the family yo. You ain’t gonna be able to play this card on me. And its the Marines specifically who’d be tasked to protect Taiwan, given the terrain. (Island hopping specialists). Believe me, I know.
You know who are some of the most gung ho people with regards to going out and fighting for us? Even more so than US Army, US Navy or US Air Force?
Marines. I’m serious. If you knew them, you’d know what I’m talking about. Do you know any marines or are you just hypothetically laying out this discussion on me as if I’m an ignorant dumbass? Our job, most of the time, is to hold the Marines back from fighting. They are a bit mad and war-mongery more so than the rest of us. Its in the culture of the Marines.
So its our responsibility to point them in the right direction of what is worthwhile to fight, and what isn’t worthwhile. Taiwan would be much, much more important than the desert we sent them to last time.
I’m not playing a card, it seems like you really do value your job over the lives of your military relatives and friends. That’s wild to me, but everyone has their own set of values. Yours are demonstrably self-interested.
Again, I see no good reason why the US has to be involved in another imperialist war abroad.
Because the imperialist is China. Not the USA in this case. If you don’t like imperialism, then you need to fight back against expansion.
USA hasn’t “expanded” in Asia for decades. This is protecting people of Taiwan, who are very close allies of the USA and critical to our economy, while preventing wanton imperial / expansionist China from getting bad ideas for the next decades.
Like, for every “imperialism” word you use in that post above, I’m wondering why you’re cool with Chinese expansion or any of the other asshole stuff they’ve done.
The US is imperialist, and defending Taiwan to maintain a friendly business relationship would just be just another manifestation of that. I don’t think the US needs to be world police for China’s expansionism. If we’re going to interfere with China’s business, maybe intervening in the ongoing genocide of Uyghur people would be a good use of military power. But that doesn’t help you and your cushy tech job!!
I’d rather the tech workers lose their jobs then send American soldiers to die in a war over global power. Like I said, China could just sell us chips if we need them so badly.
If China wins the war of Imperial Expansion vs Taiwan, they’ll continue attacking outward, risking Japan and Philippines next, or maybe Korea. Hard to say what their next priority would be, but its up and out in any case.
That’s the funny thing about war. When someone wins a war, there’s no reason for them to stop. And these ancient empires have memories.
The safest time to handle everything is when the smallest flames of war begin. You snuff it out before it grows any larger. We’re going to fight anyway, the question is if we fight for Taiwan, or if we fight at a later stage.
This is the same “Red China” that funded North Korea expansion / the Korean war. They have huge imperialistic and expansionist ambitions. Always have.
Why should I care if China is the empire vs the United States? The United States has been an imperialist, expansionist empire for centuries. You’re fear-mongering, but you’re really just worried about yourself and you’re willing to throw soldiers into a meat grinder for your own job security.
Yup. I’m a selfish asshole who lives here and cares about my job, my livelihood, and the people I support.
Fuck you too.
But you don’t care about the people you want to send off to die? Don’t you see how that is selfish?
It’s especially bad when you look at the class background of military recruits compared to tech jobs. You’re sending the poors to die.
You can get another job, but those families can’t get new sons and daughters.
My uncle is in the marines. So are many of my close friends. Of course I care. But there’s also our interests that must be protected.
Marines in the family yo. You ain’t gonna be able to play this card on me. And its the Marines specifically who’d be tasked to protect Taiwan, given the terrain. (Island hopping specialists). Believe me, I know.
You know who are some of the most gung ho people with regards to going out and fighting for us? Even more so than US Army, US Navy or US Air Force?
Marines. I’m serious. If you knew them, you’d know what I’m talking about. Do you know any marines or are you just hypothetically laying out this discussion on me as if I’m an ignorant dumbass? Our job, most of the time, is to hold the Marines back from fighting. They are a bit mad and war-mongery more so than the rest of us. Its in the culture of the Marines.
So its our responsibility to point them in the right direction of what is worthwhile to fight, and what isn’t worthwhile. Taiwan would be much, much more important than the desert we sent them to last time.
I’m not playing a card, it seems like you really do value your job over the lives of your military relatives and friends. That’s wild to me, but everyone has their own set of values. Yours are demonstrably self-interested.
Again, I see no good reason why the US has to be involved in another imperialist war abroad.
Because the imperialist is China. Not the USA in this case. If you don’t like imperialism, then you need to fight back against expansion.
USA hasn’t “expanded” in Asia for decades. This is protecting people of Taiwan, who are very close allies of the USA and critical to our economy, while preventing wanton imperial / expansionist China from getting bad ideas for the next decades.
Like, for every “imperialism” word you use in that post above, I’m wondering why you’re cool with Chinese expansion or any of the other asshole stuff they’ve done.
The US is imperialist, and defending Taiwan to maintain a friendly business relationship would just be just another manifestation of that. I don’t think the US needs to be world police for China’s expansionism. If we’re going to interfere with China’s business, maybe intervening in the ongoing genocide of Uyghur people would be a good use of military power. But that doesn’t help you and your cushy tech job!!