• Takumidesh@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    There are plenty of cis women that have higher natural t levels than men, that’s why many sports already required people stay under certain t levels before trans sporting rights were even in the question.

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      7 months ago

      The effects of increased testosterone last a long time, even if it’s being blocked. And how exactly are testosterone levels being monitored? When? When, if ever, do the athletic advantages of male puberty and testosterone wear off?

      People have reasonable and legitimate concerns beyond accusations of transphobia. Sweeping those concerns under the rug and acting like they are unfounded will earn the trans community little support.

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        7 months ago

        Lmao, do you not even know that transition literally involves monitoring your E and T levels like, at least monthly to start with, to see what you know - the fucking dosage you need to suppress T and raise E to the needed level is? When trans women talk about their T levels, like I did ITT, do you think we’re just making it up or what?

        The advantages wear off pretty quick in terms of strength, but hey I’m fine with banning trans adults from competing if we make sure that future trans people can compete by being allowed to take puberty blockers when they actually need them (pre puberty).

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        7 months ago

        So you’re threatening your support of the trans community based on whether or not people agree with your sports opinions. Or, at least you’re implying it’s legitimate that people would do so. L take. Transphobic vibes.

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          7 months ago

          Not agree, but willing to at least engage in a good faith discussion of issues rather than resorting to accusations of transphobia.

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            7 months ago

            This is not a good faith discussion on your part and the fact that you don’t realize that is why I’m calling you transphobic.

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                7 months ago

                A good faith discussion starts with someone not being transphobic, and someone not tone-policing trans people for being concerned about the rampant transphobia on this post

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          7 months ago

          Anyone who disagrees with me is transphobic! It’s obviously not possible for me to be wrong!