Not sure if this was already posted.

The article describes the referenced court case, and the artist’s views and intentions.

Personally, I both loved and hated the idea at first. The more I think about it, the more I find it valuable in some way.

  • Maalus@lemmy.world
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    Women aren’t barred from joining chess tournaments. They have their own tournaments where men are not allowed. They don’t join “grandmaster level tournaments” whatever that means because they don’t have a high enough rating to compete. Reasons for this are complicated and largely unknown, with the main possible reason being they probably get less support worldwide for pursuing chess. Also there are titles that require less ELO points to qualify for, made for women, like “woman master”.

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      Why are men and women playing chess in different leagues? Chess isn’t atheltic, nobody is going to have an advantage over another player because of gender or sex.

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        Historic systemic sexism means women are under represented in the game. Different leagues aim to bring more women and girls into play because for example, a young girl can see women playing and want to get involved. It is much less likely if all they see is a boy’s club.

        Anyone can enter the ‘mens’ league, so whenever a woman is good enough to complete they can (and do).

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        Agreed. I’m not a chess player, but I view it as an intellectual sport or challenge. There’s no reason not to eliminate all gender specific separation IMO.

        I think it’s fun to see people in competition and achievements where we don’t have to care about the person’s physical attributes.

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        Because historically it’s been shown that they are weaker players. At the top, the grandmaster title, only 41 women have it, out of like 2000 overall titles. So they created the women’s tournaments to encourage more of them to play chess. There are only two types of tournaments, open, where everyone can play, and women’s only, where only women play. A lot of female players play opens as well as women’s

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          Because historically it’s been shown that they are weaker players they were excluded, creating the illusion that they were weaker players

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            They weren’t excluded. Since early 1900 they played chess in chess clubs. Since 1920s women competed in high level tournaments. There isn’t many women in chess, so the chances of a higher rated player are lower amongst women. It doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen, or that women are weaker players. There is simply less of them.

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          The fact that there are only 41, is due to under representation not ability. That under representation is cause by many factors, including ignorant and damaging comments such as yours. You should be ashamed.

          In our life time it is entirely possible to see a female world champion and even the removal of the WGM (and other W titles) due to progress in repairing the damage caused by sexism.

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            7 months ago

            I said in other posts, that women aren’t worse at chess - there is less of them, so higher ranked players aren’t as common. But keep your outrage.

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      Reasons for this are complicated and largely unknown

      Really?
      Well, systemic sexism is complicated, no doubt. You have to decide tho. Complicated or unknown? Cause it can’t be both.

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        It absolutely can be both. You don’t know that sexism in chess makes it so no women play chess at all. It is a factor, but you don’t know its impact.