• HessiaNerd@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Ignore Ukraine fighting Russians who invaded their country? I thought that was the point?

    Are you trying to stand by the bald faced lie that ‘its just locals who disagree’ over booting out the extremely corrupt Yanukovych? Just locals with Russian military tech shooting down MH17.

    I’m sure the oil and gas discoveries prior to the 2014 invasion had nothing to do with it.

    What really blows my mind is the tankies ignoring Ukraine trying to nationalize the energy sector ahead of Russia’s invasion.

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      8 months ago

      These borders are arbitrary lines drawn by Soviet bureucrats. It did not matter as long as both countries were in the Soviet Union. This is not a war between two countries. This is a war over how the Soviet Union should break up.

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        8 months ago

        Maybe, if you consider the ethnic cleansing the soviet’s did. Like getting rid of all the tartars in Crimea. When you send an entire population to the gulag to die, maybe their historic borders don’t matter so much anymore. Is that what you are referring to?

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          8 months ago

          There is nothing Ukrainian about Crimea. It’s Tatar country. After the Soviets murdered the Tatars, Ukrainians took over.

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            8 months ago

            There is nothing Russian about Crimea. It’s former Tatar country. After the Soviets murdered the Tatars, Ukrainians took over.

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              8 months ago

              Did I claim that Crimea was Russian? Ukraine has no legitimate claim to Crimea, neither doea Russia.

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      8 months ago

      Ignore Ukraine fighting Russians who invaded their country

      The fact the nazis were shelling civilians in the Donbas.

      Yeah they overthrew the democratically elected leader, so it’s not a democracy.

      It’s not as simple as Russia bad guy invaded good guy for no reason.