• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    8 months ago

    Yeah. Tankies in most places are absolutely inconsequential, but they’re very prominent on the Fediverse. It’s good to push back against the poisonous parts of their ideology (like ‘Imperialism is good if it’s a capitalist state that’s not part of the West doing it’).

    Would hate to see that kind of vile fascist shit normalized on here.

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      8 months ago

      Yep, authoritarianism and imperialism is wrong left or right. The United States has a horrible track record on this front it’s true. But they’ll lose their shit when you state a simple fact like ML nations are generally just as bad. Russia basically invaded and forcefully annexed many nations post WWII. Tried to invade Afghanistan. Imprisoned and slaughtered millions in Siberian prisons to this very day even. All for simple dissent. Nivalny anyone? China isn’t really any better either.

      They usually break into a sputtering revelry of “But imperialists and the west did X”. Which you can easily tear apart with a simple “And?”. Because it doesn’t justify them doing it.

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        8 months ago

        Id still argue that tankies and authoritarians of all kinds dont fit in in the left, but otherwise agreed.

        I want a society thats classless, cashless, stateless. Currency, billionaires, socioeconomic classes, dictators dont fit.

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          8 months ago

          Same here. It’s a long road. And unfortunately ml and tankies specifically have set us back on it quite a bit. But the evolution Karl Marx originally spoke about is absolutely worth continuing to pursue.