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        One is doing that on a segment of a niche internet forum, and the other is doing that on millions of humans. Like I said, I know which ones worse. Zionists get people killed. Tankies yell about things that already happened.

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              First of all I AM NOT DEFENDING ZIONISTS.

              However, the Soviet Famine killed between 5.7 and 8.7 million people and the population of Gaza and the west bank is only ~5 million, so the famine might have been worse, but no one wins when you play the suffering Olympics.

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                Its more power mapping than suffering Olympics. Tankies can only argue to justify things, there are no tankies in control of countries or influencing countries budgets and agendas. There are Zionists that control countries with massive militaries though. There are zionists in media influencing millions daily. You can be mad at tankies for defending things but they had no hand in perpetuating them, you cannot say the same of Zionists. Why spend time being mad at groups that don’t influence anything?

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                  Why spend time being mad at groups that don’t influence anything?

                  They influence discourse on here, and if “The kulaks deserved it and the deportation of the Crimean Tatars was holsum” becomes normalized, I sure as shit ain’t sticking around any more than I would stick around someplace where Nazis are normalized.

                  Spreading fascist talking points in an effort to discourage voters in the West from sending aid to Ukraine also has a very real effect.

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                    The people actually effecting Ukraine aide are the conservatives who lean fascist. You’re giving tankies way too much credit, they don’t exist outside of niche internet spaces, and they certainly dont influence US foreign policy.

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      And neither of them are as bad as 1940s Nazis. And those aren’t as bad Maoists. A rotten apple is a rotten apple no matter the variety.

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        Cops are rotten apples, So are nonprofit universities that use massive endowments to essentially be for profit. No one would claim they’re just as detrimental to society as each other. One of the groups is clearly worse and it’s surprising how many people are refusing to engage with that idea. If you think Zionists arent getting people killed and Tankies are, I really don’t know what to tell you.

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          My friend, you are on a web platform specifically designed to engage in every conversation, including that one. The point everyone who replied to you is try to make is that you going into a conversation thread and sidetracking with no additional value has the same energy as saying “all lives matter” as a reply to black lives matter. No shit Sherlock, but you’re not doing any good by throwing in “but, zionists” to the conversation at hand.

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            Is that comparison not me engaging in the discussion? Or is it only engagement when you agree with it? Zionists are killing people, right now. Tankies exist mainly online and their numbers are bolstered by foreign troll farms and sock accounts trying to create division. So sorry I don’t want to buy into that outrage of people who scarcely exist.

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              You’re right, it’s engagement at the level of an “all lives matter” chud. I didn’t realize that was the level of thought you were intentionally going for. Congrats I guess?

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                Again. Zionists are killing people right now. Tankies are the most minor of minorities. If you think saying Zionists are worse than Tankies is like saying all lives matter you’re one of the kids Bush left behind, so congrats I guess.

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              You aren’t engaging in the discussion.

              You are derailing it.

              Smells of Putin Propaganda because Russia gets rightfully criticised.

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                Putin proganda props up tankies talking points to foster division and outrage, outrage like this meme. What does russia have to gain from my stance of ignore tankies because they only exist online while zionists sre influencing actual policy, war and death? You cant just call everything you dont like russian propaganda, but thats about as lazy as most response ive been getting.

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      Tankies are as bad. They’re just less powerful.

      At least since the fall of the SovUnion