• qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    The problem is, before they wemt on that murdering spree, the western world pretty much ignored their plight, or maybe tutted when they chucked a rocket or two over the border. But any kind of “proper” political solution was flatly ignored. It’s not a justification, but I have to say that I umderstand why that situation led to a “fuck it, let’s just rampage” attitude. And look, they actually have a tonne of eyeballs and attention on their shitty situation (and shitty leaders), so maybe something will come of this. Palestinians are paying an exorbitantly heavy price for it, though.

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      It’s not a justification, but I have to say that I understand why that situation led to a “fuck it, let’s just rampage” attitude.

      Reminds me of this.

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      Sure, but again - if you murder people at a music festival and take hostages, even if you might have reasons to do so - you can expect quite a lot of people to not be on your side. The only thing for sure is that terrorists won that one.

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        Sure, but again, if you indiscriminately kill innocent people in Gaza and destroy the very last university, even if you might have reasons to do so - you can expect quite a lot of people to not be on your side. The only thing for sure is that Israel won that one.

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          Absolutely. Not sure why you would think I don’t understand the hatred Israel is getting.

          The only thing for sure is that Israel won that one.

          Not sure what Israel won, despite making sure there will be another generation of Palestinian freedom fighters with rather questionable methods.

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            I wasn’t making a statement about you, I just wanted to demonstrate the statement can be made in any way.

            I agree, Israel bred the Hamas of tomorrow for sure. But they did win in terms of getting closer to turning Gaza into a settlement.

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              I wasn’t making a statement about you, I just wanted to demonstrate the statement can be made in any way.

              But you were responding to a actual person, me. So it would have helped if you clarified it wasn’t about me - don’t you think?

              Israel bred the Hamas of tomorrow for sure. But they did win in terms of getting closer to turning Gaza into a settlement.

              Even that sounds to me like a win for the terrorists - but I can see, people have different view.

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                It’s directed to you. It just makes no statements about you personally, just responding to your opinion. Hope that clarifies it.

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          Still peddling these lies huh? You watched the video of the university explosion. Was it not already bombed out and partially collapsed?

          Is it indiscriminate killing if you literally call the people in the phone first and tell them bombs are coming?

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            call the people in the phone first and tell them bombs are coming?

            We do live in a dystopian world after all: “We are pleased to inform you that your house has been selected for a bombing due to acute terrorist threat. Please leave the area immediately. We are thankful for your cooperation.” Only missing Judge Dredd.

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              “OH yes and you only have 2 minutes to leave… But sometimes we skip the warning because Hamas might find out and flee too… That would ruin our chances of killing the terrorists! Thank you for understanding.”

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          The concept of terrorism in general. Once again it was able to achieve an escalation of violence and therefore create more terrorism.