Some people feel the term is outdated. They say this while parading around what to me seem oxymorons, like “non binary women” or “he/him lesbians”.
When a lot of these people say they aren’t comfortable with their gender, I notice they often mention things like clothes, makeup, hobbies. More generally, they seem to talk about gender roles- masculine and feminine- than something to do with their bodies.
Here’s the fact of the matter. Bathrooms, pronouns, legal documents; they aren’t referring to any of that. They’re referring to what’s in your pants, or if you have boobs, or grow facial hair. Most people, myself included, don’t care if you wanna wear clothes or behave in a way assigned to the opposed sex (there are folks who do of course, and most of us here know they’re assholes). But unless you’re changing something about that, it doesn’t warrent a change in your pronouns or documents or bathrooms. As much as my own rights are under threat, I can’t help but sympathize with the folks upset with that, I don’t wanna share the ladies’ room with what amounts to a femboy or “metrosexual” either.
Sex is bimodal, and I use the term bimodal specifically. There are edge cases, such as intersex people, or those with hormonal conditions like PCOS. I would argue transsexuals, those like myself who seek to change or sex, are among them. And hell, actual enben who seek out procedures like gender nullification too. I don’t take hormones because I want to be feminine. I take them to be as close to female as I can possibly get with the medical technology available. That’s how I want to be seen, and treated. I plan on surgery to change what’s in my pants. If I could get a menstrual cycle out of that, I would, and probably go on to have children (because infertility is another perk of transition).
I don’t have anything against the sorts of people I’m talking about- I want to be abundantly clear on that. Same with those who say, dont want bottom surgery. My frustration is more with the terminology, because there is a delineation there that I feel is erased. People decry older terms like transsexual as “outdated”, but I feel it’s much more apt for my experience. I am transitioning to the other sex (or as close as I can). My gender has been constant all the while
I’m a cis het guy (I think that’s right?) and I’m just genuinely curious about why the labels we use have taken on such significance. I’m not some conservative ‘this woke stuff has just got out of hand’ person, more in a sense of have the waters become too muddy to navigate, and have we, in an an attempt to become more inclusive, done a bit too much Top Down classification.
Instead of just letting people be who they want to be and define themselves how they want to be defined without having to justify it? Because it seems from your post you’re feeling the need to justify your use of a term which you feel applies to you where really… It’s _ our_ language. It feels to me you shouldn’t be put in that position
No you’re right, we’ve probably done more classification than necessary. You can only label every micro difference between people so deeply before it’s just more effective to just use their names and personalities.
That being said, I think there’s use for some degree of labeling to ease communication. In my case, what I’m experiencing is a concrete issue identified by countless psychological and medical organizations; and a target for prejudice. It’d be nice to have a precise term to communicate that.
I don’t think this is a controversial opinion in a vacuum. It’s regrettable that transsexual was a blanket term for transgender people to begin with.
I think for simplicity it can be boiled down to transgender being how you present yourself, and transsexual being what’s under your clothes.
The only grey area would be whether breast surgery counts towards being transsexual. I don’t think it would be, as cis-women don’t become men after breast reduction surgery. But I feel like a man getting breast enlargement surgery is different somehow.
My pronoun policy is based on a live and let live frame of reference, and disregard the lexical accuracy considerations. I don’t know what’s accurate, but will use whatever pronouns a person wants.
I personally want to bypass any “men and females” vibe, where I try to tell a trans person what pronouns are technically correct, at the expense of disregarding/dismissing their subjective reality. I wouldn’t want to do that even if I had all the linguistic leverage to press the point.
I might be wrong, but I’m comfortable with not insisting on specific labels and names for people who are not me.
I don’t understand why “conservative” trans people identify as transsexual instead of transgender. Transsexuality is currently impossible. Transgender is much more in line with what “conservative” trans people push.
I hatched my sister into transitioning. Transgender seems to be more accurate for how things currently work.
I think bathrooms should be segregated based on gender, not based on sex. Or even better, not segregated at all. Cheap bathroom “walls” and “doors” are part of what makes builders build more bathrooms per building.
Oh hell nah man. How much time you got on your hand for this shit
