President Joe Biden on Friday ordered a historic change to the Uniform Code of Military Justice by transferring key decision-making authorities outside the military chain of command in cases of sexual assault, domestic violence, child abuse, murder and other serious crimes.

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    It was in the chain of command before? Wow gee I wonder how that could possibly go wrong!

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        Why the fuck are these cases even handled by the military and not the regular criminal and civil courts?

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          Playing advocate, but that’s why UCMJ exists, at all. They should prosecute all crimes under UCMJ, or none. It doesn’t make much sense to only do certain crimes under civilian courts.

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            The UCMJ is also harsher than civilian courts when prosecuted appropriately. It has specific statues related to military-type crimes like duty abandonment and not following orders.

            You don’t want to go to military jail, that’s for sure.

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            I mean, if UCMJ doesn’t consider prosecuting rape to be worth their time, it’s good that they’ve been relieved of that duty. Solders endure enough trauma, getting raped by those they serve with and under shouldn’t be par for the course.

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              The civilian justice system is absolutely not better at executing justice and is arguably worse on many ways when comparing similar cases. At least the rape kits get actually tested and processed in the military.

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                I wonder if you realize you’re commenting on a reply of someone telling a story about how one wasnt even investigated and then the rapist was promoted after doing it again.

                There’s plenty to criticize in our civilian justice system, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t plenty to criticize in our military justice system. This is one of those things, the military is notoriously bad at handling sexual assault cases.

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                  I was commenting on if it is worth their time. I find it to be a wholely unjustified statement given the fact that they actually conduct justice unlike civilian juridictions. If it wasn’t worth their time, they wouldn’t be addressing it.

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    I gotta say, I had zero expectation of anything from Biden, but he has definitely delivered a few pretty good somethings, and this looks like another one. I hope they have a great day today wherever the Bidens are hanging out.

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    He said he didn’t “want to bore you with detail here,” but that basically,

    “I know it may not sound like much,” Kirby said

    The headline grabbed my support. This lines cooled my excitement. Thoughts from others? I feel like maybe the headline isn’t as much of a grand slam when I see this kind of waffling.

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      Saying “key decision-making authorities” sounds like exactly that: key positions. Moving key existing positions out of conflict of interest.

      To finish your quote:

      He said he didn’t “want to bore you with detail here,” but that basically, “this change required a completely different shift in the way these crimes are investigated and prosecuted by taking them outside the chain of command, which already had existing protocols in place in existing judicial system.”

      That really explains it, I don’t know why you cut it off.

      “I know it may not sound like much,” Kirby said, “but it’s a big change to the way the military did it.”

      Why did you cut these off where you did?

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      Hot take, but as bad as rape is - its nothing compared to the systematic fucking that is still running with flying colours both red and blue.

      I’m sure we’ll see a million LGBTQ rights and bike lanes before a single major problem is solved - shit even if the FTC broke up a single super monopoly today I’d be suprised.

      So I mean hey at least one of us is here

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        I mean, LGBTQ rights are only “not a major problem” to those who aren’t LGBTQ. But to many they’re absolutely critical too.

        There can be multiple horrifying problems to fix. “All” would be stellar to fix, but “some” is still better than “none.”

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          Nah I’m just tired of the constant heatwaves that line our overlords pocket.

          Tbh to put it in simpler terms I feel like were in a sinking ship hand bildgeing out water when there’s an asshole on the other side of the ship ripping out boards for his own benefit - scoop all you want but the problem is never gonna be solved until we look at the root cause. Both red and blue are contributers and will never make a law against those with capital (who had an entire island dedicated to rape??).

          Never mistake the lesser of two evils for good, path to hell is paved with good intentions

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      By the recent actions of lefty content creators i’d say that group has almost completely lost relevancy.

      We are seeing a sort of ‘cooling’ of bad leftist politics like refusing-to-vote and all-or-nothing mentality.

      Which is good because if we have any hope to mitigate the worst of climate change for the disenfranchised in our society it’s with the democrats.

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          It’s my understanding one of the groups that say democrats and republicans are the same were the Bernie-or-bust crowd that sold their viewers a black pill towards voting, an example would be Kyle Kulinski, he recently spoke on how he loves biden and how biden-pilled he is.

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            Those were right wingers though, the were just trolls that were trying to convince the left not to vote so they would win.

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              Ahh, i suppose that makes sense, but it’s not like they really needed to considering prior to 2020 voters under 30 turnout was abysmal.

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        Someone program this bot wrong?

        It replied to a sexual assault topic with barfing up a climate change ummmm…response?

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          I was responding to the comment about the people saying democrats and republicans are the same, does no one remember Bernie-or-bust? Those people said both parties are the same, but more recently those content creators are pulling way back from defeatist mentality. It’s a good thing.

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    I’ve heard it said that women in the military get assaulted so often they’re basically the state’s own unwilling prostitutes.