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    His immigration stance is bipartisan. Bernie himself wants to limit immigration. I’m a radical immigration proponent (wanna be a citizen and land in USA soil, I’d make you a citizen), but the reality is my opinion is deeply unpopular.

    Sadly, protectionism is rampant in the Democratic party.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/25/21143931/bernie-sanders-immigration-record-explained

    Israel is similarly bipartisan and not hard-right at all. 61% of Democrat voters support Biden’s Israel stance, even if they think Israel is being too aggressive

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/17/democrats-israel-polls/

    I absolutely guarantee you his constituents are higher than national average in favor of the policies he is stating.

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      Your argument for why someone with a D by their name can’t have a far right stance is other people with a D by their name have the same stance?

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        I’m saying that his stance is not “far right,” and is instead embraced across the political spectrum

        Words cease to have any meaning if “far right” just means “things I don’t personally agree with.”

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              Not hard to define anyone as far right when the defining line in your head is wether or not they chant ‘death to America’ 5+ times a day.

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                No, supporting colonization is right wing. They steal Palestinian land, that is an undeniable fact.

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          I’m saying that his stance is not “far right,” and is instead embraced across the political spectrum

          And I’m saying that decades of the “left party” moving to the right doesn’t make conservative viewpoints suddenly the average and acceptable behavior for any Democrat.

          You’re literally arguing that we hold the party standard to the person furtherest to the right, but they’re not really on the right because a D is next to their name.

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            And I’m saying that decades of the “left party” moving to the right

            This is not a thing that has happened.

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              Look up HWs pressure on Israel and the resulting ceasefire, then look at Bidens statements on Israel and decide for yourself which is further right.

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                Biden is probably the most people Israel president the US has had, not enough people know his political history, it’s basically why he was picked as Obama’s VP.